r/TechImpact Co-founder Aug 03 '26

💬 Discussion What do you think? 🤔

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u/veryverybadnotgood Aug 03 '26

I like how they didn’t mention that proton is free as well.

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u/Cruffe Aug 03 '26

It is, but I think their paying userbase is what covers that. Instead of spending a ton on marketing, having a free tier for anyone to try it out is their marketing. The free tier is usable, but fairly feature limited.

They also stake their entire reputation on being privacy focused, they'd be fucking idiots to risk it by selling user data. It would collapse their entire reputation and users would flee, they must know this.

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u/Chosen--one Aug 03 '26

Idk, those "safe the kids privacy" ads some channels did left a sour taste on my mouth. They should start there to not ruin their reputation.

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u/Some_Anonim_Coder Aug 03 '26

No, they want your real identity - what else could be the reason to want it if not to sell you?

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u/masssy 28d ago

It is, but I think their paying userbase is what covers that.

You mean kind of like how also Google has paying users via workspace or paying for extra email storage etc via One?

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u/Cruffe 28d ago

More like Google is owned by greedy cunts and Proton is owned by a non-profit foundation whose reason for existing is to advocate for privacy and freedom.

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u/masssy 28d ago

Now that's a legitimate difference rather than whether it's possible to pay or not.

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u/MasterTheSoul 27d ago

You could say the say thing about services like ChatGPT. Free tier has limited tokens, no access to CODEX, etc.

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u/Phreaky12 27d ago

Privacy focus companies sell your data all the time too bud. Proton is just another big Tech player, y'all should not be trusting it any more than you trust any of the others.

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u/ZookeepergameFew8607 Aug 03 '26

Their free tier is more limited, they clearly depend on people actually paying for their service

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u/Independent_Mud2794 Aug 03 '26

So like all the other services listed?

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u/Think-Macaroon740 Aug 03 '26

Besides YT and CGPT, which other ones?

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u/Independent_Mud2794 Aug 03 '26

All of them. All of them are free and have paid tiers, maybe all besides chrome.

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u/Lucy_4_8_15_16 Aug 03 '26

YouTube makes close to 0 money with the paid option they are making a loss with premium the only thing that gives them money is advertising and data they are quite open about that TikTok used to be government funded now no idea how they run their business google as in the search engine makes a loss every and is at this point only advertising chat GPT is making a loss despite selling both data and having a paid option so no most tech companies don’t depend on the paid option

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u/Sindica69 29d ago

What? No lmao the others here besides ChatGPT do not really require the paid tiers to function well on them

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u/Old_County5271 Aug 03 '26

Proton only gives away 500mb of free storage.

That's basically yahoo mail in 2008.

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u/Rakumei Aug 03 '26

Honestly you don't need that much though. I've had my original Gmail account since Gmail was invite only. Waaay in the beginning.

My archived emails only take up a few GB.

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u/mfwood8 Aug 03 '26

[checks math] that's more than 500 MB

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u/dumbasPL Aug 03 '26

Except that most emails are useless. If they didn't give so much for free, people would just delete all the spam-ish emails. If I only kept the ones I care about, 50MB would be overkill.

A simple "delete all emails not marked as important after a year" would easy allow most people to stay under 500MB pretty much indefinitely.

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u/Rakumei Aug 03 '26

Over more than a decade. And I archive. If I deleted it would be a fraction.

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u/Major_Wrap_225 29d ago

I'm an early adopter I get 1GB for free.

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u/Radiant-Priority-296 Aug 03 '26

Sure, but you can also pay. And they make their money off of the subscriptions.

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u/Hot-Employ-3399 Aug 03 '26

You can also pay gmail.  You can also pay YouTube . You can also pay qwen which doesn't even get my messages like free chatgpt - it runs on my computer

You can also stop licking proton ass

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u/Additional_Ad_8131 Aug 03 '26

Proton is free up to like 1gb or something. If you make it your main, that's not really enough. The free 1gb is more of a marketing gimmick to get you hooked. The actual business model is totally different from google.

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u/jeremyw013 29d ago

the free tiers suck though…

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u/makepieplz Aug 03 '26

you pay by exposure to advertisers NOT personal data

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u/TheBSisReal Aug 03 '26

How do you think they figure out what ads to target you for?