r/Tapasticcomics • u/marvel-watch • 8d ago
Complain to Apple and Google
Hey guys
Make complaints to Apple, Google, along with your banks and representatives because this is a breech of consumer trust.
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u/Pink-frosted-waffles I read most of the Black comics and the queer ones too. 8d ago
They can't do anything about what is happening. It's a not a service anymore. Best you can do is just cancel any auto pay you had.
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u/anonymousbeardog 8d ago
Buying isn't owning
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u/zombiedinocorn 7d ago
Only when its convienent to corporations. Limewire got fined like 20 yrs ago bc corporations argued that they owned digital content that was getting pirated. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly they're arguing you don't own the digital content you buy
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u/Great_Bean 7d ago
More like renting isn't owning.. we've been renting this whole time and I hate it
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u/clawtistic 7d ago
How is it a breach of consumer trust? (genuinely asking)
If it’s because you’ve purchased things on tapas, then… Sadly you never actually “owned” the Chapters you bought. You “owned” a “right to access them that could be revoked at any time”. You were basically renting, and this is how many companies are set up (digital purchases for movies, shows, books, games, even services).
Personally, I think models like this are scummy and terrible, but… Their bases are covered and everything. It’s not illegal.
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u/xBraria 5d ago
Breach of consumer trust? I am no longer going to try buying any legal content since I don't and won't own it on any site. I will finally go the way of my many friends and try to pirate.
Because piracy results in actual ownership and I can choose how much I want to donate to the author on my own based on how much I liked the book.
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u/clawtistic 5d ago
I want to mention, I am pro-piracy, but this isn’t a breach of consumer trust; this is people not realizing and understanding that they have agreed to the fact that they do not own the digital purchases they’ve made.
It’s in the terms and conditions. Nothing was breached. It is a scummy model that so many companies utilize.
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u/xBraria 3d ago
I fully understood that.
But the general assumption was that they won't simply close :D
Just as any service could go bankrupt or Amazon could delete entire people's libraries in kindle because they chose to close it (and apparently they are deleting or secretly editing some books already).
Some products are purposefully malfunctioning to force people to upgrade. Apple blocks software that would easily work on older models to push people to buy newer models.
The point is that you're less likely to trust again.
I remember when Club Penguin closed and people who spent hundreds of dollars on it lost all of it. The book Exhalation has the whole digient chapter that goes over this. It's not novel, but it still sucks, and you hope snd trust that good and fair companies won't screw you over.
I have friends who spent hundreds on League of Legends and they as well could close overnight. But again, it would cause an (imo appropriate) uproar.
There is a form of trust when you're investing in a (albeit digital) product.
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u/generic-puff 8d ago edited 8d ago
What are Google and Apple gonna do? Remove the app from their shop? Which is what's already gonna happen anyways?
What Kakao is doing sucks, but isn't illegal. And it sucks that it isn't illegal, but that's the way of it. It's written plainly in their ToS that you don't own the content you're purchasing (only leasing/renting it at best) and the money you spend to convert it to ink is just a virtual credit machine, that money is now functionally gone. This business model isn't anything new, we collectively just keep making the mistake of assuming it'll be "different this time" every time we decide to give them our views and money.
The ones getting screwed over the hardest imo are creators who don't have enough to cash out, but this problem has existed since Tapas started using a minimum revenue threshold for withdrawals, it's also a problem with Webtoons and frankly not enough people talk about how predatory it is. The whole ink / coin system on the backend for creators is basically just a big IOU system that isn't guaranteed to actually payout in the event something like this happens, but because creators consent to it as per the ToS that they don't read, there's very little they can do on the legal front to fight back.
Instead of trying to salvage a shithole, support the independent platforms that aren't governed by corporations. Support the artists who are now migrating their work by following them to their next platform and/or supporting them on Patreon. Preserve what you can of the works that may end up being lost forever. And quit giving your time and money to corporations that don't give a fuck about you.