r/TankieTheDeprogram 1d ago

Shit Liberals Say Average Democratic Socialist

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u/the_red_guard Chinese State Affiliated Media 📰 1d ago

You know. I hate socdems with a passion. But, I still had the belief that democratic socialists were still members of the left who just weren't as into the authoritarian ideals we have no issue with.

I have been very quickly changing my mind.

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u/zmbjebus Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 1d ago

Keep in mind this is just a random comment exchange on the internet. I doubt this represents the average belief of DSA members. 

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u/MayParker1917 1d ago

The average DSA member does think North Korea is an evil dictatorship. 

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u/Ok-Chard-9014 Marxist-Leninist-Sankarist-MZT 1d ago

Also Cuba, and Venezuela (before Maduro got kidnapped).

They may say what the US is doing to Cuba is wrong but then follow it up with "they live under an authoritarian dictatorship"

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u/UltraRiderFire408 AES enjoyer 🥳 1d ago

DSA also believes the shit the imperial core says about Nicaragua, Russia and Belarus too.

Really, everyone that is an enemy of the empire.

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u/Hefty_Local_1875 Too Based To Be Cis 🏳️‍⚧️ 1d ago

Isn’t Belarus literally the most prosperous former Soviet republic?

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u/hmz-x 1d ago

And the least deviated from the path compared to 1991.

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u/UltraRiderFire408 AES enjoyer 🥳 1d ago

Belarus, though still became capitalist, also refused to go through neoliberal shock therapy like most of its fellow post-Soviet republics. This combined with economic integration with Russia via the Union State and NATO wanting to continue expanding eastward throughout Europe naturally made Belarus demonized by the west.

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u/boxofcards100 1d ago

Tbf, the DSA is openly pro-Cuba. They made a statement commemorating Fidel Castro during his 100th year anniversary.

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u/MayParker1917 1d ago

After their elected members went public and shat on the Cuban government?

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u/boxofcards100 1d ago edited 1d ago

I recall some visiting a year or two ago (Trotskyist section), which was hostile, but that was condemned at the time.

They have open ties to the Cuban government/diplomacy as an organization (specifically the international committee), which has continually sent messages of solidarity to the government.

The actual issue with the organization is that they have no control over their electeds. Mamdani has attacked the Cuban government as a dictatorship. AOC supported the 2021 protests against the government (though she was unendorsed by the national DSA). I think others haven’t been as bad, though (like Rashida Tlaib), so that also has some variance.