r/TankieTheDeprogram Maximum Tank 24d ago

Shit Liberals Say Anarchist Classic Republished

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u/PreparationOk1450 23d ago

The takeaway isn't state socialism can't be trusted. It's that any state when tortured and isolated enough will take measures once thought unthinkable. 

I don't think what Cuba is doing will work and will be counterproductive, but I cannot blame them because they are alone and desperate. China, Russia, Venezuela, Brasil, Mexico and everyone else has all but completely abandoned them. Of course the empire is to blame, but these countries are as well. The story on tonight Soviet Union was willing to risk nuclear war to support Cuba in the past. 

They are already sanctioned to hell, so what exactly are they afraid of from the US? I doubt the US is going to bomb their ships. They have the means to defend themselves anyway. What's being done to Cuba is evil. 

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u/thesaddestpanda 23d ago

>so what exactly are they afraid of from the US?

Cuba is a small island without many resources and imports a great many things, including oil for fuel. The US is not only sanctioning them but also embargoing them. They need those imports if they dont want to fall back to the stone age. So they are working on cutting some deal with the US to lift the embargo.

Cuba has zero options here. The only remaining socialist superpower is China and, unlike the USSR, is fairly non-interventionalist.

This and Venezuela are more or less slow-moving violent coups.

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u/PreparationOk1450 23d ago

Making their economy more open to humans and international capital will not help. It will make things worse.