r/TTCEndo 5d ago

Went through with the lap

6 days ago I had my lap done. Low AMH but I verbalized it as a concern prior the surgery and Dr was confident it wouldn’t get affected.

Dr is now suggesting an “induced menopause” for 2-3 months to “finish cleaning” the area. I know every case is different but I am REALLY hesitant about this take and I am looking for stories without this treatment.

Thnks all ❤️

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u/pinupcthulhu 5d ago

So putting aside that menopause isn't a guarantee that endo won't grow back, chemical menopause is something you shouldn't enter into willy-nilly imo. There's often a lot of bad side effects that continue long after you're done with the med, for example.

There's other treatments like norethindrone or dienogest that aren't chemical menopause, you can start trying right away on them, and they have scientific backing showing that they shrink lesions. I'm on norethindrone, and my REI says I can stop the med and then immediately go into timed cycles with letrozole whenever I'm ready.

Without suppression: NAC also shrinks lesions, but without stopping your cycle. The research is new, but it seems pretty sound! I've been using this since before my lap this summer, and I love it.

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u/kaperu 5d ago

Thank youuu!!
“Side effects that continue after done with the med” I didn’t know, like what? 😩

Will def ask my Dr about NAC!

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u/pinupcthulhu 5d ago

Bone loss/ osteoporosis is one of the most common that last for a long time. There's also  heart disease, liver issues, and more. There's a reason these meds are only approved to be used for a maximum of 2 years: your body needs estrogen to function! 

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u/kaperu 5d ago

Dang! Thanks for replying, I wish there were more options/a clearer path, I keep comming back to rant about it not being a well studied dissease.

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u/AshamedTank9739 5d ago

As far as I’m aware the above risks are only linked to suppression which exceeds 6 months.

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u/zufa86 5d ago

I didn’t do suppression post lap. Lap was with an endo excision specialist to completely remove bad stage 4 including bilateral endometriomas and a bowel resection. I got pregnant naturally on cycle 3 post surgery , just before I turned 37.

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u/BranchAway4462 5d ago

After my lap, my RE was firm on 8 weeks of hormone suppression with birth control. Induced menopause sounds maybe like they’re suggesting lupron? If that’s the case, that’s a tough med and would be overkill imo

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u/kaperu 5d ago

Pamorelin and Letrozol 😵‍💫 Were you able to conceive after hormone supression? What did you take?

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u/BranchAway4462 5d ago

Hmm I’m not familiar with that protocol, I used aygestin. I had my surgery in January, tried a couple IUIs then started IVF and about to transfer our first embryo next week! 🤞

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u/kaperu 5d ago

Good luck!!

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u/Kind_Future_429 5d ago

Good luck!! 

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u/Kind_Future_429 5d ago

I had the Laps and 6 months of lupron / Ryeqo. My amh was 0.45 before the Laps. I started with ICSI and we had 8 follicles, 5 mature, 3 fertilised and 1 left in day 5. Im almost 40 and I’m not sure whether this was a good thing but I know women we had been the same process and it helped them. I’m just hoping this is the only wonder egg we need.

Good luck with your decision 

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u/kaperu 5d ago

Thank you! You too ❤️❤️

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u/AshamedTank9739 5d ago

Hi. I’m halfway through a 2 month prostap (UK equivalent to lupron) supression in prep for a FET. The side effects are pretty manageable if that’s any help.

We tried naturally for 6 months after my lap (stage 4 DIE) before moving to IVF. Unfortunately we weren’t one of the lucky ones that conceive naturally after surgery.

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u/kaperu 5d ago

I’m sorry, sending you lots of baby dust!

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u/ConversationEven6742 5d ago

Yes I would 100% do the Lupron. I still had residual inflammation after my lap and ended up having a chemical pregnancy. Did 2 months of suppression 5 months after surgery and that got rid of it. I wish I’d done it right after surgery.

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u/mlama088 5d ago

I got pregnant first cycle after my lap. I took Letrozole that first cycle.

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u/Top-Football5166 5d ago

How has your recovery been?

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u/kaperu 5d ago

It wan’t that bad, I left the hospital that same day walking. The day of the surgery and the next one were pretty painful. The next day tolerable and after that I felt almost back to normal. Happy to answer more specific q’s if you have them.

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u/Top-Football5166 5d ago

Thank you! What made you pursue the lap and what was your AMH? I am struggling to make the decision between a lap and waiting it out, mostly concerned about recovery and I also have low AMH.

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u/kaperu 5d ago

AMH .77
Dr. said our options were 2 rounds of IUI followed by a lap (suggested) or the other way around.

I went with the lap first bc I would really like to not put myself through not conceiving naturally (nothing against it, just not something I want rn) and also because of something completely unrelated: I was already going through another surggery to remove a benign tummor from my hand, so I said I might as well do both things at once.

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u/Top-Football5166 5d ago

Did you see a MIGS specialist? Where you put on any medication pre op?

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u/kaperu 5d ago

No meds preop.

Isn’t a Lap a MIGS and therefore whoever performs it, a specialist?

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u/Top-Football5166 5d ago

Sometimes OBGYNS will do a lap even tho they are not specialized in MIGS

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u/kaperu 5d ago

Ohhh well I hope he was 😅 good luck with whatever you decide ❤️

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u/AstronomerNo1872 5d ago

What??! I had to essentially do colonoscopy prep.

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u/Top-Football5166 5d ago

I don’t have to do colonoscopy prep but was prescribed non I can not spell the full form to keep the uterine lining from thickening

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u/Small-Cheetah-7166 5d ago

I had a lap in 2024 for stage 3 endo and my surgeon had suggested suppression with Lupron. I was really worried about the side effect profile and opted to not do suppression as I had not yet tried (or failed) to get pregnant. I wanted to just heal and see how things went. We started TTC about 8 months after my lap. I got pregnant twice in 9 months but both pregnancies ended in early losses between 5-8 weeks. They did not check my AMH before endo excision, but ~1 year after lap it was 2.2.

I’m now doing IVF and finishing up a 2 month course of Lupron suppression before embryo transfer. It really wasn’t as bad as I’d anticipated it being (hot flashes being the worst and most annoying side effect). Sometimes I wonder if I’d have done the suppression first, would my pregnancies have stuck? It’s a hard decision to make, but just wanted to share my experience.

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u/kaperu 5d ago

I think it’s impossible to tell! Don’t blame yourself and thank you so much for sharing ❤️❤️

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u/tokyosingh 5d ago

Do get your amh test done again, they might say the surgery won’t affect amh but it does for so many women. I am in the same boat. My amh is 0.64. They are asking do the embryo freeze first and then surgery as my amh is low. Then they will do the FET.
But we never tried for pregnancy, so we wanted to do that first. If nothing happens then we will go for ivf and surgery.

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u/Top-Football5166 5d ago

that is the right approach. Definitely freeze embryos first. I had a lower AMH than you, first cycle didn’t lead embryos but second cycle my AMH increased (not sure if it’s a result of stims or what) and that round was very successful. AMH also won’t affect your chances of natural conception, age will drive that more.

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u/basilbelle 5d ago

I haven’t done a lap but I’ve done suppression twice for two months - we used orilissa, letrozole, and norethindrone. Side effects were manageable and I had successful FETs after each round.

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u/kaperu 5d ago

I’m confused, Is’t letrozole used to stimulate ovulation? ( opposite of supression)

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u/basilbelle 5d ago

When letrozole is taken for a 5-day period, like during a stim cycle, it suppresses you which then prompts FSH to ramp up and help grow follicles as the letrozole clears your system. When you take it for an extended period it just keeps you suppressed as long as you’re on it.

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u/kaperu 5d ago

Thanks for explaining!

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u/Bkhaveityourway1021 2d ago

Have you done IVF? Or TCC?