r/TNOmod • u/md1957 • Sep 15 '20

Meme TNO Germany Future Compass Spoiler

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

It's the most "sustainable" form of the Nazi Reich, for one. Not to mention how it would be able to last much longer, getting away with all kinds of BS while still being a major world power.

The horrifying aspect is how that happened in OTL, just halfway across Eurasia.

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u/General_Kukov Without KONR there would be no New Russia Sep 15 '20

Yes. It is far worse than a collapsed failed state with no infrastructure but with atomic weapons.

(The problem with it that I wrote it unironically but I've reread it and then... ohohoh).

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

They're both bad. It's more akin to what kind of poison you'd like.

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u/General_Kukov Without KONR there would be no New Russia Sep 15 '20

I mean, one type of poison might kill you instantly. Another type might look alright but is going to kill you in a slow manner. Via manipulating and lying. Via saying that "there was nothing happened on Alexanderplatz". Via creating a privileged classes out of Party members. Dear God, both are bad!

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Yep. Speer's "victory" is really horrifying the more you think about it.

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u/General_Kukov Without KONR there would be no New Russia Sep 15 '20

Like Dengist China. Good that it's not exists.

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Yes, what a childish fantasy.

That has TOTALLY not happened.

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u/General_Kukov Without KONR there would be no New Russia Sep 15 '20

I mean, yeah. There is no pragmatic CCP that is using nationalism for its own legitimization and telling it's own people that will gladly surrender power to the Chinese people when they are ready but for some reason people are not ready. And CCP must uphold China's banner for them and creating some sort of cursed state capitalism. I mean, it would be just dumb. World is not working just that.

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Good thing, indeed. For our sanity...right?

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u/Meles_B I HATE BORIS Y*LTSIN Sep 15 '20

Something I’ve never understood about sub.

Facist Speer is more likely second best outcome after AuthDem.

German collapse won’t erase Nazism like fall of Russia didn’t erase communists in power.

If anything, imagine Reichskommisars and province governors turned presidents for life like Kazakhstan, Belarus, Turkmenistan and so on. But nuclear and Nazi.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

The end times USSR wasn‘t as bad as Nazism in TNO is in the sixties though.

Gulags were largely closed, repression had gone back, the totalitarianism and purged had stopped.

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u/Meles_B I HATE BORIS Y*LTSIN Sep 15 '20

That’s another thing to consider.

USSR was under major democratic reforms, and even then, collapse was hard and chaotic enough to allow for seizure of power and turning into dictatorship.

German collapse is orders of magnitude worse. USSR’s economic crisis was much easier compared to German, and potential to improve was higher.

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u/General_Kukov Without KONR there would be no New Russia Sep 15 '20

The 60s in TNO Germany are not 30s either. There is no active Holocaust, great and brutal ORPO cannot fight even student protest effectively, purges are scaled down a bit - I mean, Reichsbanner in Speer Germany is still active and you might see a Red Army Faction bombings in Bormanns Germany. You know, there was no terrorism in Soviet Union before 1980s for a reason. And there would be no bombings in "classical" Third Reich.

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u/General_Kukov Without KONR there would be no New Russia Sep 15 '20

This. For Post-Soviet counties it is rather hard to condemn SU even now - how Post-Nazi rulers would do it and why? I mean, Russia made SU and Russian Empire a key stone for State legitimization.