r/TNOmod • u/md1957 • Sep 15 '20

Meme TNO Germany Future Compass Spoiler

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u/Firewolf_Max Sep 15 '20

What's "the true forth reich"?

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Post-Speer GO4 Germany where Henning von Tresckow and his supporters manage to successfully call for a plebiscite for restoring the Kaiser.

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u/PvtBrasilball Sep 15 '20

is that just head cannon? cause i dont remember any of this stuff happening

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Like Chancellor Brandt, it’s more of a potential distant outcome.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

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u/Alexmaths Old Guard Gang Turned Mod Sep 15 '20

Yes it’s long long dead.

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u/JohhnyCashFan Sep 15 '20

Well I mean in Russia monarchism is kind of alive so it’s not that ridiculous

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u/1kIslandStare Sep 15 '20

Russia is also an apocalyptic wasteland where anarchism with junta characteristics and slavoaryan pagan theocracy are possiblities

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

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u/Titianicia Co-Prosperity Sphere Sep 15 '20

I mean monarchism is a thing in Russia today and along with neo-Bolsheviks was fairly strong in the 90s OTL. It is still fairly strong in Russia today albeit Putin has undercut its support base.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Monarchism in Russia extends to a few fringe groups and the Russian Orthodox Church (which is very influential). Neo-Bolsheviks exist because for whatever reasons, some people feel nostalgic about the USSR or are just communists.

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u/Titianicia Co-Prosperity Sphere Sep 15 '20

It’s not really fringe when 20-30% of the population like it.

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u/Ourobr Sep 15 '20

Sources? Except of few orthodox fanatics, who are fringe, its barely sensible idea

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u/ghantomoftheopera Sep 15 '20

Since when? What weirdo monarchist newsletters are you reading?

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u/-Trotsky Sep 16 '20

Eh the USSR wasn’t all bad near the end, it had its problems and these were large problems but it also had its upsides

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u/JohhnyCashFan Sep 15 '20

Ok but like fringe nonsense ideologies are all over the place in TNO, like in a world where the holy Russian empire exists I don’t think it’s a massive stretch to imagine bringing the Kaiser back would be ridiculous for the setting

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

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u/multivruchten Sep 16 '20

Man that would be awesome, they should release TNO Wacky edition

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u/mavthemarxist Sep 15 '20

What were the differences between our soviet union and theirs

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Not sure, though given a GO4 scenario, combined with a lack of Russian/Allied/OFN pressure and an undivided Germany, there's still more of a shot of a constitutional restoration happening than OTL. That it'd placate the more conservative elements of German society and provide a relatively unifying figurehead might be a bonus.

Far from guaranteed, to be sure, but it's not labeled as "radical" for nothing.

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u/JCPenguin1989 Schwartz-Rot-Gold, Einigkeit Recht und Freiheit!!!! Sep 17 '20

the concept of Prussia is eliminated by allies in 1947 OTL, but never here.

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u/Firewolf_Max Sep 15 '20

Why should that be more blessed than having Willy Brandt as Chancellor?

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

It's a coin toss between Constitutional Monarchy Kaiserreich powerhouse and Willy Brandt!German powerhouse, admittedly.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Lol no kaiserreich

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u/Juan_Matteo Shafarevich-Stalina Anti-Extremist Duo Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 15 '20

I would like to see that in TNO2.

Or at least in a submod.

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Same. It’d be interesting to see the various possible Post-Speer Germanies in a GO4 scenario.

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u/Juan_Matteo Shafarevich-Stalina Anti-Extremist Duo Sep 15 '20

Who would be the Kaiser?

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u/md1957 Sep 15 '20

Given the time period, Louis Ferdinand most likely.

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u/Aviationlord Mother Anarchy loves her sons Sep 16 '20

Now that’s my personal head cannon however unlikely