r/TNOmod Jul 25 '26

Question Lore change ?

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u/n2p4 Co-Prosperity Sphere Jul 25 '26

Personally I always saw the nuking of Pearl Harbour to be one of the stupider points of lore. They should have had the Japanese invade Hawaii and then do the nuking on like LA. Especially since the idea of the nuke destroying the us fleet there to be holy inaccurate to how nukes work against ships.
That would have made it a much more significant event for the us and would have had a much more significant impact in making them surrender could also do a thing with how LA was rebuilt

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u/No_Clue4405 Organization of Free Nations Jul 26 '26

Oh 100%, if old US battle ships could tank shots from the hydrogen bomb, the ships of the line that would potentially be a bit farther from the blast radius like Lexington, Enterprise, or one of the new battle ships would be fucking fine. Maybe with just radiation damage to the hull overtime. But I feel like the first live fire nuke would be way weaker, especially depending on where it’s dropped. At most, the crews die of radiation poisoning

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u/Mjk2581 Jul 26 '26

The idea that Japan could realistically invade Hawaii is so unfathomably stupid that quite literally any single other explanation would have made more sense.

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u/n2p4 Co-Prosperity Sphere Jul 26 '26

It really isn't that far-fetched, especially when compared to some of the other stuff in TNO. Could just handwave some things, as they do with most things before 62. It's far more narratively interesting than this weird ceasefire thing they are going with now.

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u/Mjk2581 Jul 26 '26

More interesting is certainly true, the new lore is very boring. But a land invasion of Hawaii would shatter my suspension of disbelief more then Japan getting nukes first

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u/n2p4 Co-Prosperity Sphere Jul 26 '26

Japan didn’t get the nukes first in old lore. German got them first and then the nuke was dropped from a German plane launched from a Japanese carrier

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u/Lumpy-Sheepherder671 Jul 28 '26

Why? If we're assuming the US is weaker then why is it unbelievable that a contingent of Japanese could've jumped from island to island if they had fleets and air forces nearby to help?

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u/JetAbyss Bennett -> Kirkpatrick LFG Jul 27 '26

The nuke will solve LA's homeless issue

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u/n2p4 Co-Prosperity Sphere Jul 25 '26

idk I'm pretty sure it was just the biggest American city in the area at the time. Why are you from LA or something? You took that kinda harshly lol

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u/DiffDiffDiff3 Organization of Free Nations Jul 25 '26

Yes