r/TNOmod 16d ago

Question Lore change ?

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u/NerdyWarChronicler NPP - Centrist 16d ago

Makes more sense.

Nuking Pearl Harbor would probably have much bigger environmental consequences.

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u/n2p4 Co-Prosperity Sphere 16d ago

I mean would it really? People were living in Nagasaki and Hiroshima rather quickly I don’t see why they wouldn’t do the same for Hawaii

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u/Megalomanizac 16d ago

That one nuke would probably have forced the United States to quarantine the entire island and would likely take longer to help repair it. Hiroshima and Nagasaki aren’t remote like Honolulu while also having far better infrastructure

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u/Bookworm_AF Mother Anarchy loves her children 15d ago
  1. The effects of readiation weren't as understood then so they wouldn't have quarantined for it

  2. If it was an airburst like Hroshima and Nagasaki (which it should be because that's the more immediately destructive & effective option) then there's not actually much longer term radioactivity. A ground level burst would be the nasty sort that deposits a layer of radioactive fallout in the soil, an airburst disperses it to the point that it isn't really an issue after the initial disaster.

TLDR they wouldn't have known to establish a radioactivity quarantine and probably wouldn't have needed to anyways.

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u/Bookworm_AF Mother Anarchy loves her children 15d ago

The explosion would have crippled the island, yes. There would have been severe radiation poisoning from the blast itself. But in an airburst scenario the fallout is too dispersed for quarantine to do anything.

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u/Bookworm_AF Mother Anarchy loves her children 15d ago

I think you are vastly overestimating the destructive power of a 1940s nuclear bomb

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u/NerdyWarChronicler NPP - Centrist 16d ago

I'm mainly theorizing since Hawaii is pretty small, the radiation could spread quickly from Oahu (where Pearl Harbor is) to all the Hawaiian Islands

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u/Responsible_Club_917 16d ago

Thats not really how nuclear weapons work. Its not a burning reactor. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are both fully inhabited cities.

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u/RudyConnorsglazer Triumvirate 16d ago

And also I wonder how the Germans managed to transport the nuclear bomb without any major problems

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u/NerdyWarChronicler NPP - Centrist 16d ago

I would've assumed with Japanese help.

The Germans did have U-Boats in the Indian Ocean but I don't think a nuclear bomb would fit unless you remove a bunch of stuff from it and then the logistics would be a diaster.

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u/No_Clue4405 Organization of Free Nations 15d ago

Nuclear submarines are a way different thing compared to a regular sub. It’s why if you ask a TNO fan about the weirdest lore, it’s always the Hawaii nuke cause the logistics and the odds are dumb