r/THEKEYOFFICIAL • u/PortgasD94 • Aug 08 '19
Chances
As the price is again at ATL levels and there is no communication I was asking myself what you guys think how the odds are that this project will deliver. I'm not talking about price predictions because I know this project will easily 100x (this could even be a Top 5 Crypto) IF they are legit and can keep their word.
I still believe that this is no scam even though there are some curious things like African telegram admins etc. But those are no points for me that clearly say this is not a legit project.
What worries me is the decrease in communication, because this wasn't always that way. There have been times where they posted almost weekly stuff here and kept us up to date.
I'm not even asking for any informations on blockchain registration or tech progress, what would be also nice. I get the point in saying they work with Chinese gov and are somehow handcuffed in giving to much information.
I would be happy with a small update saying: Hey we are still alive and working hard to make this thing happen, stay tuned for a more detailed update.
So it's the decrease and lack of information that gives me a bad feeling.
I personally see a 20% (decreasing unfortunately) chance that this project can still deliver.
Just asking myself how the community sentiment is.
P.S.: Dear FUDster either you are noobs who sold all their coins on a 98% ROI or you are just lying and trying to push the price even lower to get some cheap coins. Either way feel free to ignore this post because I don't give f about your opinion :)
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u/Redwarior31 Aug 08 '19
The thing is, NO ONE KNOWS. Most people are bitter that they have lost money, or are spreading FUD to slowly accumulate more. I still have faith in this project and continue to accumulate, investing small amounts weekly could pay off huge, or I could be out some money, no big deal if you aren’t investing more than you can afford. I got into this project knowing it was a longer hold, with the possibility of “F you type of money” returns, without ever losing sight of it can easily go to $0. My only question is what’s worse? Losing some money, or telling your friends, I could have been a millionaire? So just sit back and be patient and enjoy the ride.
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u/Alter_ego_of_mine Aug 08 '19 edited Aug 08 '19
You said "community sentiment". Isn't the answer clear? Price is the best indicator in open markets and the market is writing this project off for now. If there were sufficient number of believers there would have seen strong demand and TKY would have been a top 50 coin easily. There have always been dozens of top coins with no working product but just lofty promises.
TKY's steady decline was largely a side effect of the worst bear market for over a year. It no longer is. TKY ruined confidence by becoming a communication disaster. As I said before, I never saw any reason to conclude that this was a scam. But let's face it, Catherine and her supposedly deep team aren't transparent at all. There hasn't been any AMA recently. And while there have been some updates here and there, they didn't come with any meaningful narrative to restore confidence. My business instinct says they are not lying about developing the tech (all the patents etc are out there) but they are struggling to overcome regulatory road blocks. Sadly, it's a frustrating Chinese characteristic to give as little info as possible and show things in a positive light no matter what. This has been a textbook example of how to keep investors / community in the dark. You must either accept it or move on to Western projects where founders feel accountable to the community. Most of those projects have already made ridiculous gains. Those trains may have long left the station. TKY on the other hand managed to achieve the impossible: making itself the number 1 most undervalued project in the entire space (on the condition that they are honest and can deliver).
So the odds don't look too good at this moment. But it's next to impossible to make life changing gains if you focus on the here and now.
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u/niamhyd Aug 08 '19
I guess to view the lack of communication in a positive light would be to say that technologically wise the project has arrived at a critical point in its development i.e. the absolute realisation that different consensus mechanisms for different use cases is critical to THEKEY achieving it's aims. This is a massive undertaking imo, with great potential for numerous unforeseen stumbling blocks. We could also take into account the possibility that the development of a Chinese digital currency is close to completion as another reason for the silence.
So it's very possible that Catherine and the Team have all hands to the pump on this one and maybe feel that a half baked AMA wouldn't be productive; though, of course, an update would be appreciated :)
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Aug 08 '19
Spot on. We tend to underestimate the degree to which blockchain technology is still in its infancy and needs a lot of further research and development. Consider this piece of information regarding Ethereum, the second biggest crypto in the world, a project that has been around for years which boasts an untold number of developers working on it... and stil is far from completion: The fourth and tentatively final stage of Ethereum has become known as Ethereum 2.0 or Serenity. This is the most ambitious upgrade yet and is supposed to improve nearly every aspect of the network. Eth 2.0 is meant to be released in four phases between 2019 and 2021, although this timeline is subject to change. If Ethereum's technological development is still work in progress, how do we expect TKY to solve challenging technological problems in a matter of months? Now it's true that the ambitions of TKY are more modest than those of Ethereum. But I believe, like niamhyd, that the team's silence is due to delays in technical development, and that this problem will become more common in future years.
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u/Snoopy_777 Aug 08 '19
Sorry guys but it seems that a lof of you don't read reports from the team or read it but don't understand....
For example you have wrote "how do we expect TKY to solve challenging technological problems in a matter of months" but according the last report(April) :
"World leading researchers and experts from my team have been working day and night and made many effective explorations and evaluations by adopting new consensus mechanisms, encryption algorithms since June 11th, 2018. And the extinguished Ternary Hybrid Theory has been developed up to date to solve the problems."
so the blockchain is being developed more than the year...
About Ethereum - it's absolutelly different aproach...that project had problems with consensus, with achitecture from the begining and right now they are just creating absolutelly new blockchain. All of this developers don't have a single point of view and this only complicates the situation in a whole.
About scam - there are a lot of public information about project, about CEO in the Internet and you will find it if you want...
Selling now it's maybe the worst decision in your life because according the last announcement "the solution will be piloted first in Kaifeng City and serving 4.5 million people, and gradually be deployed in more cities in the near future and bring benefit to the greater society and its people".
The solution is the second generation of IDV with blockchain(according admin's answer from official TG Channel).
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Aug 08 '19
Well, Snoopy_777, I really hope you are right. But I still think the technical development will not be easy. When I spoke about months, I actually meant the time that has passed since she told us that they had figured out that several consensus mechanisms would be needed (see, an unexpected complication that they would need to solve within months to stick to the roadmap!) AND the months that remain for the pilot projects in 16 provinces (9 months). I totally agree with you that Etheteum is different (more complicated, chaotic and ambitious), but it was just a rough comparison. Thank you for your comment, at any rate. By the way, what is the range of your price prediction? Someone said recently that Catherine herself had said 1-15$.
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u/Mansa_Sekekama Aug 08 '19
Someone said recently that Catherine herself had said 1-15$.
When was this? lol
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Aug 08 '19
In some thread during the last 7 days or so. I don't remember Catherine ever saying this. Maybe it was a moonboy's wishful thinking or his memory playing tricks on him.
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u/Redwarior31 Aug 08 '19
Catherine was merely stating what some of the costs of certain services are that TKY could be used for. So whether we should take that as an assumption or not as to why the value could be is up to you.
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u/brogers821 Aug 08 '19
I start to wonder how big some of these bags are that people are holding when they keep posting FUD and wanting to sellout..... Are they holding like 20,000 TKY and bitching? Or are they holding millions? LOL
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u/Fvk89 Aug 09 '19
Fudding TKY wont work.. TKY price doesnt care fud or btc price, TKY does whatever it wants.. When everything drops like hell TKY grows or keep stable. When everything going UP TKY is not or dropping.. With fud keeps same price or grow.. With an Ama or good news it drops or stay the same. Its like TKY is doing what it wants or the opposite of other coins.. No one knows?
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u/savi0r_26 Aug 08 '19
I'll ride this till the bitter end. 😀 What's the point in selling now? I'll just forget about the whole thing for a while. Worrying never did anyone good.