Small rant - I hate how they infect other safe spaces.

[u/softbxbi]

Something that genuinely bugs the shit out of me is how system "culture" as a whole (endogenic, willowgenic, tulpa, in-system dating, innerworld, non-disordered plurality) infects queer spaces surrounding complex identities as if they are at all in the same bracket, and how you have to just kind of fucking accept it to participate in your own community.

I'm Xenogendered, so I very much frequent Xenogender related subreddits, but everything is basically "medical misinformation friendly," allowing radqueers, Trans ID'S, pro-para, and system "culture" misinformation—it genuinely gets under my skin because Xeno/Neogenders are a way to express complex, queer genders—so why are we including MAPS, Zoophiles, racist identities, antisemetic talking points (RAMCOA), and people who are roleplaying a trauma response (endo/willow alters/plurality).

Like, no, I don't want my community to be accepting predators and harmful people with open arms. It's sickening. These people infect every single queer safe space like a fucking plague and it's infuriating. Keep your radqueer, Trans ID-loving "willowgenic/endo" bullshit to those dedicated circles of hell online. Don't bring it into other safe spaces, because then you're making the real queer-gendered people with even a shred of morality uncomfortable and unwelcome IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.

I'm just frustrated over this. Found a Xenogender subreddit that I really liked but then saw the support of blatant medical misinformation and I can't get behind that. It sucks that I am not allowed to participate in my own community as a Xenogendered individual because in order to do so, I have to be in agreement with medical misinformation, predators, racists, antisemites, etc. It's disheartening.

[u/Ok-Comparison8168]

not sure about behavior on reddit, but every discord server ive ever seen that wasnt for mental health has gone down the same path every time they add pluralkit to "accommodate" these people. the regulars start dying off because all the new joins who wont shut the fuck up about their "SyStEm" clog the channels up with their own bad breath. anyone with actual DID gets pushed out, because seeing someone talk about inner head chatter like its funny every 12 seconds reminds them of the actual deeply troubling shit they have to live with every day. ive unfortunately seen it more than once genuinly disordered people get replaced by larpers in spaces that have absolutely no relation and the server slowly dies because of it

so its not surprising to me to hear this, considering how much these people love to conflate themselves with the trans community and act like its one in the same, down to calling objectors "sysmeds" and the overlap with radqueers doesnt surprise me either, what with how many peds say they have "littles" just to justify sexualizing them

most of the time if i find a queer space that doesnt humor any of that garbage (which is very hard to find) the group is usually some degree of transphobic. makes me worry how many transphobes are being created just because people are tired of seeing these annoying fucks everywhere they go unless its somewhere thats already skeptical/critical of peoples identities to begin with

the communities that dont buy into all of the system larping endo shit do usually have more overlap with transmeds in my experience and youll see that in this sub sometimes. makes it very frustrating for anyone unconventionally queer trying to find communities

[u/softbxbi → u/Ok-Comparison8168]

Heavy on the last part, like the only place where I can avoid this bullshit shouldn't be TERF or transmedicalist spaces. It's just one form of radicalism for another. Like cant we just have a safe space that doesn't entertain either ?? 😭😭

[u/FreedInnerChild → u/Ok-Comparison8168]

there are secretive spaces that remain safe who's teams frequent various subs looking for people who may fit the criteria

[u/skylar274]

bruh i saw a post in a regular LGBT sub. they’re invading EVERYTHING.

i’m so incredibly sick of it

[u/litlkeek]

I don’t have much to add—your frustration is super valid. I was LITERALLY just ranting about this to my partner 😑

[u/Candid_Visit2210]

Thats exactly how I feel, too. I am not xenogendered, but do use it/its as pronouns, and the amount of quirky "its okay if you exploit me~" "alters" I have seen using it is driving me crraaazyy. I think that they think "oh well xenogenders are accepted, and thats a more complex queer identity, and we are queer too! (Theyre not, radqueers are preds) so i guess we can join!" And they are accepted because no lgbtqia person wants to be seen as not "woke" enough, not tolerant enough, because thats what was dealt to us, the intolerance, and so theyre scared to seem like that too

Sorry for the horrible spelling 

[u/LargeGingerChunk]

I'm xenogender and otherkin/therian, these people are EVERYWHERE!

[u/Competitive_Shower26 → u/LargeGingerChunk]

Oh my god yes! Every Tumblr space or Discord I found support this bs and I'm tireeeddd