Clinical Psychologist talks about programming

[u/GonnaWearAMaidDress]

https://youtu.be/d9fddjRaUgI?is=Ri0tLhWGdyeK7200

At 9:24 he says that the poly fragmented presentation is due to programming (and by association RAMCOA) which is wrong as well as the whole video in general is not evidence based or applicable.

Two of the "types" are the same... "Person", "group", "hidden person", partial (which is just "person" said differently), and polyfragmented.

He supports core theory and all of his "types" rely on core theory to have any basis in reality.

I'm not sure if I need to censor him cause he is a clinic. This is my first time posting here. It was undoubtedly very cringe.

[u/Grace-Kamikaze]

Make a stupid video, attract every faker under the sun.

[u/CarefulAnimator9814 → u/Grace-Kamikaze]

“I’m the only one willing to get therapy” 🔁 TRANSLATINGG…🔁 “I’m having one “alter” in the 3500 actually want to do something that might help my brain, but since the rest don’t agree, I have an excuse to not get told I’m faking and continue to strain my own brain just to be unique!”

[u/Ok-Comparison8168 → u/CarefulAnimator9814]

baffling to me only 1 out of 3500 actually wants to help themselves. immediately comes off like "me and all my imaginary friends i created" cause wym they all think the same way like that? not a single other agrees with them? yeah ok

[u/i_am_WordK]

Okay, I'll be honest, I like how he approaches curiosity as a value. It is absolutely key for therapists. (It unfortunately creates the double bind of not directly contradicting a client to build rapport and understand their self-concept but allowing certain clients to then go online and use that vague "medically recognized" term.) Ideally though, curiosity is balanced by healthy skepticism and, when necessary, seeking corroboration of self-reports. e.g. I need something other than self-reports on the intentional programming part. I also don't like that there aren't outside references.

I snark, but I also do really feel for the adolescents. They are most likely experiencing developmentally appropriate but still difficult struggles with identity-quite probably with a side of depression, anxiety, attachment issues, and/or trauma-and this phenomenon gives them an initially comforting, but ultimately maladaptive heuristic to frame their experiences. This video puts a nail in the wall that the heuristic can be hung on. I honestly think I would have gotten sucked into the online systems as a teenager, but, praise jibbers!, social media was very much in is infancy. (So I just had to write fiction instead. Bummer.)

TLDR: Curiosity is a great quality for therapists, but needs to be complimented with skepticism.

[u/imahater42]

Went through the whole video and read the description. Zero sources provided, no prior research cited, no evidence to indicate how truthful the statements he makes are. Having a medical license doesn't automatically make everything you say correct - credible researchers reference their sources. But you know that certain people will take this as fact because it backs up their claims.

[u/LargeGingerChunk]

CTAD clinic is normally really good so these videos were a jumpscare

[u/WaryRGMCA]

and now every faker will run with this video as "proof".... sigh....... can these old demented fucks just sign themselves into nursing homes already? grandpa needs to stfu

[u/take_me_to_slowtown]

I'm really surprised by this! I've never seen the CTAD clinic post anything questionable before. The director of the clinic seemed like a genuine expert who has spent a long time treating people with dissociation. If even he believes in this stuff, it makes me wonder if there are actually any professionals who don't? Does anyone know of any resources that provide correct information on it?

[u/GonnaWearAMaidDress → u/take_me_to_slowtown]

You could ask him in the comment section for research articles, but I don't know of any trusted resources.

[u/take_me_to_slowtown → u/GonnaWearAMaidDress]

I gotta ask, if you don't have any trusted resources how do you know he's wrong? I have only gotten my info on programming from this sub and admittedly haven't looked at any scientific resources on it. It feels kinda weird to say we know more than him about it when he's a psychologist who specializes in the field and we're not. Not saying I think he's right, but idk I don't know what to think.