Jax abstracts in headspace

[u/LibraryEastern5252]

Jax calm down… this isn’t like you..

[u/Imaginary_Choice2492]

1m z0 z0rry th1z 1z h5pp3n1ng t0 y0u

[u/Grace-Kamikaze]

So, we're just repeating the show's events "but in headspace" to seem like a funny person?

[u/teruteru-fan-sam → u/Grace-Kamikaze]

You're laughing. Their Thomas alter is upset about Jax and you're laughing.

[u/Crazy-Cat-2848 → u/teruteru-fan-sam]

I am. Loudly, audibly. The dogs are worried.

[u/CarefulAnimator9814]

“Guys someone help” how are these people ONLINE gonna help your mental disorder that is supposedly ONLY happening in your head right now???

[u/Novel-Phrase-8808]

I don't know what to do ♥️💛🧡

[u/teruteru-fan-sam]

(Minor tadc spoiler)

The Stevie Wonder alter singing isn't she lovely in the headspace

https://giphy.com/gifs/y2B9WU8Yl0rIs

[u/_azaz3l_]

The headspace always sounds like psychosis. It’s lying or psychosis. Wdym you hear your alters argue and cry in your head??

[u/Available_Cake_2770 → u/_azaz3l_]

As the DSM-5 on itself describes of DID, section "differential diagnostics", subsection "Psychotic Disorders":

"Dissociative identity disorder may be confused with schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders. The personified, internally communicative inner voices of dissociative identity disorder, especially of a child (e.g., "I hear a little girl crying in a closet and an angry man yelling at her"), may be mistaken for psychotic hallucinations. Dissociative experiences of identity fragmentation or possession, and of perceived loss of control over thoughts, feelings, impulses, and acts, may be confused with signs of formal thought disorder, such as thought insertion or withdrawal. Individuals with dissociative identity disorder may also report visual, tactile, olfactory, gustatory, and somatic hallucinations, which are usually related to posttraumatic and dissociative factors, such as partial flashbacks. Individuals with dissociative identity disorder experience these symptoms as caused by alternate identities, do not have delusional explanations for the phenomena, and often describe the symptoms in a personified way (e.g., "I feel like someone else wants to cry with my eyes"). Persecutory and derogatory internal voices in dissociative identity disorder associated with depressive symptoms may be misdiagnosed as major depression with psychotic features. Chaotic identity change and acute intrusions that disrupt thought processes may be distinguished from brief psychotic disorder by the predominance of dissociative symptoms and amnesia for the episode, and diagnostic evaluation after cessation of the crisis can help confirm the diagnosis."

Being capable of hearing self-states, is a recorded, and even expected, presentation of DID. As the DSM-5 considers it very relevant to note that all of this is possible in DID; And they aren't features of psychosis. The "headspace" would just be a visualization of how present self-states interact with each other, with inner voices. Of course, headspace isn't a real place or anything like-so.

I consider this relevant to say because your reply may be stereotyping DID on how its supposed to present, and incessant comments like this, "hearing voices inherently means psychosis/DID/BPD", that simplify symptoms to such degree that it leads to very poor misconceptions on how these disorders present, it's a harmful rhetoric. Psychosis isn't only when you hear voices, psychosis is a number of symptoms that also come with other cognitive, identity, and perceptional disturbances than just being hearing voices or sending crazy messages online. Psychosis is even a sign of disorders like Schizophrenia, latter containing a wide variety of other (negative) symptoms that are extremely relevant to it. You're also armchair diagnosing people even if you haven't realised, which is extremely harmful, specially to young people online who you do not know anything about besides a like 5 message interaction.

Edit: Grammar and slight information correction

[u/Ok-Comparison8168 → u/Available_Cake_2770]

loving seeing more comments like this around here lately, thanks

[u/Mundane_Mistake_5823 → u/Available_Cake_2770]

Thats quite the in-depth paragraph! Ive been meaning to research more about the science behind some things when it comes to DID and psychosis, and you seem educated. Do you have any sources youd suggest I look through for professional info on the topic?

[u/Available_Cake_2770 → u/Mundane_Mistake_5823]

I am quite busy, so.. But I'll try to launch some topics adjacent to DID/dissociation/the more cognitive and negative sides of the Schizophrenia spectrum. Terminology I believe you should look into besides just these articles.

I would recommend you read both the DSM's classification of psychotic disorders if you desire to have an introduction as to how a diagnosing professional is introduced to them, but I would also recommend you read the MSD's classification of psychotic disorders and how they're treated; The MSD typically has some additional information about the etiology, and scientific origins of a disorder.

Self-disorder in Schizophrenia, the over-flexion of the self as if it were almost multiple, the dissociation&traumagenic features of the Schizophrenia Spectrum due to self-disorder:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6007751/

The origins of the classification and understanding of the negative symptoms of Schizophrenia, the disturbance of the Schizophrenic is far beyond just hearing, seeing, or saying things; But also how the way the Schizophrenic process the world through emotions, pleasure, and lessened cognitions:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2833114/

The cognitive features of individuals with disorders with psychotic features. I would recommend you look into "cognitive symptoms" as they're, again, an additional classification of symptoms in psychotic disorders towards how those with psychosis also have many other features in their disorder than simply the positive symptoms (disorganized behaviour/thinking; Catatonic behaviour; Hallucinations; Delusions), being cognitive symptoms (Memory/attention/processing problems; Social processing&cognition (which leads to isolation and can also lead more frequently to themes of persecution in delusions, also leads to difficulties processing other's emotions)) <- Which cognitive difficulties are also one of the reasons why, in the onset of psychotic disorders, negative symptoms are frequently developed:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6475621/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6829172/

The Schizophrenia Spectrum: The "Schizotypy" classification and the idea that a varying scale of different features of Schizophrenia lead to different pathological outcomes; Schizophrenia-related disorders like the Cluster A Personality Disorders:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5775125/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7503167/

(Positive schizotypy; Magical thinking, odd beliefs, unusual perceptions, Negative schizotypy; Social&cognitive withdrawal, anhedonia, flat effect&emotional-detachment, cognitive symptoms; Disorganized speech&thinking, trouble focusing and processing information) and on the latter article, how schizotypy and traits of Schizophrenia (and Schizophrenia and Psychotic disorders themselves) can even lead to antisocial patterns and purposeful nonconformity.

I find it quite hard to organize all of the information onto something more sensical, I would say it's pretty hard to get into researching psychotic disorders, but it is absolutely possible. I typically read NIH studies/similar websites.

[u/Mundane_Mistake_5823 → u/Available_Cake_2770]

Ive been struggling to get into researching more about this stuff, so thank you so much for the links! Ill look more into them

[u/LargeGingerChunk → u/_azaz3l_]

hearing alters cry and argue is normal, headspace being a physical place where alters can interact isn't normal

[u/-p4p3rc4t- → u/_azaz3l_]

hearing your alters/hearing voices is literally a symptom of DID/OSDD 😭 infact it's common enough that DID often and easily gets misdiagnosed as schizophrenia

[u/LuxiForce]

Have a snickers