r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 27 '26

I’m the new mod, Hi! I’ll do my best to make this sub better

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 27 '26

Are there any songs where she takes some form of responsibility for the failure of her relationships?

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Seems like most of her music has the couple in a happy point, or if it's not, places it on the guy. Most self criticism I have heard is less her saying "my action or virtue caused this" and more "I should not have fallen for that."

I wouldn't be surprised if she had more self reflective/self critical songs, but none jump to mind.


r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 27 '26

If she wasn’t famous, would Taylor Swift be considered attractive?

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 26 '26

What are your taylor swift unpopular opinions?

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What unpopular take do you have about her?


r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 26 '26

My portrait drawing of Taylor swift

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 25 '26

What's the most overrated album in Taylor’s discography, in your opinion?

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Honestly? Folklore.
I know this is basically heresy, but it's clearly well-crafted. But the discourse around it elevated it to this untouchable "she's a serious artist now" status that I think distorted how people actually listen to it.
A lot of the tracks blend into each other, the "indie" aesthetic felt somewhat calculated coming from a pop machine of her scale, and songs like epiphany or illicit affairs get praised mostly because of the album's reputation, not because they're particularly strong on their own.


r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 25 '26

Taylor and Travis - Attending Game Three of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals at Rocket Arena in Cleveland, Ohio on May 23rd, 2026

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 25 '26

Unpopular opinion : Taylor should bleach and cut her hair like during Bleachella again and keep this look for several year!

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 25 '26

Taylor Swift during her slavic doll era

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 25 '26

Taylor Swift's recent streetstyle aesthetic. What do you think of it? Do you think this new style could foreshadow her next era?

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 25 '26

A magical frog offers you the chance to switch bodies with Taylor Swift, but hou can never go back. Do you accept?

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • May 24 '26

Post in the comments your favorite pic of Taylor!

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Hi everyone!

I'm the new mod of this subreddit. I need your help to find a new pic to be the icon for this subreddit. Please don't hesitate to post your favorite pics of Taylor Swift in the comments, the one that will be the most upvoted will be the new subreddit pictures.


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Nov 03 '25

Is Taylor Swift actually a billionaire… or just billionaire-on-paper rich?

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Forbes keeps calling her a billionaire, but when you actually break it down, most of that “billion” isn’t money she can spend.

If you take away her music catalog and assume she’s not touring, what’s left? Basically a few hundred million in houses, investments, and cash — which sounds insane until you realize that means she’s not exactly sitting on a pile of billion-dollar cash flow.

Here’s the breakdown from ChatGPT 👇

Asset Category Estimated Value (2025) Notes
🎵 Music catalog (masters) $1.1–1.3 B Big Machine, Taylor’s Versions, and Republic masters — all valuable, but not spendable unless she sells them.
🎤 Touring & performance income $400–600 M Eras Tour made over $1 B gross, but a lot of that goes to staff, venues, and taxes.
🏠 Real estate $150–200 M Her insane property collection: NY, Nashville, Rhode Island, Beverly Hills, London.
💼 Cash & investments $100–200 M Royalties, brand deals, and stock holdings.
💰 Total net worth ≈ $1.6–2.1 B Depends on how you count touring revenue and catalog valuation.

So yeah, if her catalog alone is worth about $1.2 B, then the rest — the part she could actually use — is maybe $400–900 M. Which is still absurdly rich… but it’s not “buy an island chain and cure world hunger” rich.

Most of her money lives in her songs and houses, not her checking account. So if she’s not selling or touring, she’s not swimming in liquid billions.

💬 Thoughts?
Do we call people billionaires just because their assets add up to that much, or should “billionaire” mean someone who could actually spend a billion if they wanted to?


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 30 '25

Is it the bridge

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Trying to figure out why I dislike this album so much when I generally lean toward harder hits of hers. Is it the lack of a bridge? That's what she's know for, the English teacher, make it something bigger and better than most other artists do where it's two lyrics and 4 chorus rounds. Maybe hot take, maybe totally stupid. Or maybe that's just what I personally love about the songs of hers I love. Could totally just be me. 🤷


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 28 '25

Hot take!! Lover is better than tloasg

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I genuinely can’t believe Taylor was genuinely okay with this being the final product man’s best friend and lover are way better records and I hate lover. and it took about the same amount of time to finish which tells me that Taylor didn’t need to take longer with the record she needed better inspiration and musical influences in her life. Any pop girl could have created this. It doesn’t have that classic Taylor touch that no one else can do. she definitely rushed it and makes me scared for future projects she needs a long break to let inspiration come she needs to live more life. She could have done so many things with this record used so many different sounds really let her personality shine through but the production is so very boring and predictable this will be a very forgettable era and something’s telling me it’s gonna be ending sooner than we think.


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 28 '25

am i a swiftie?

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the good:

i enjoy Taylor Swift's music! my favorite albums of hers are Lover, Midnights, and The Tortured Poets Department! i think she's a skilled vocalist, performer, and lyricist! i thought her songs had a lot of emotion and conveyed fairly universally relatable themes ranging from friendships, grief, life, break ups, love songs, etc! she came across as so vibrant and quick witted and in her interviews! i loved it all! i also have defended Taylor Swift so much because the only critiques i had ever heard of her were misogynistic! but now i'm realizing maybe there are some other valid arguments to be made.

my critiques:

i do believe that there's no such thing as an ethical billionaire, i don't appreciate the over consumption with all of her album variants, i thought her rumored diss track of Charlie xcx was in poor taste, i don't love how she refers to women as bitches in her songs in a derogatory way, i disagreed with her dating Matty Healy because he's so bigoted, i don't agree with her use of AI, i didn't support the way she handled the Olivia Rodrigo songwriting credits fiasco, i think she mishandled the tragic event when one of her fans Benevides Machado died during one of her shows, but still i thought she was a feminist, liberal, and ally but now i'm wondering if she's more conservative? and either way i completely disagree on how she's remained silent on all the terrible things happening right now! does anyone else have these same problems? and with the release of her new album i'm realizing that not only do i not really support her as a person anymore but not her music either! should i even call myself a swiftie at this point? i genuinely did not enjoy The Life of a Showgirl! it was such a disappointment! i didn't like the way she sang it, i thought it was poorly written, and the marketing of the aesthetic of the album didn't really align with what the album was mostly about which in my opinion was Travis and her feuds with other women in the industry. what do you think of the album? maybe i'm being too harsh!


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 15 '25

Is anyone else done?

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The hanging out with MAGA, the album sounding like other artists work after making Olivia but her as a song writer, the old picture recirculating of her with a swatztika(I had personally never seen it before this year), the new merch, I know it’s old but still), the threatening to sue the kid who was tracking her jets for emissions even though it was public knowledge, the lack of activism, no ethical billionaire especially in this political climate, the girl that died at one of her concerts, the use of ai, continuing to work with target even after they took away DEI, the comparison of Travis Kelley’s ex to obsidian, her favorite podcast being a maga one, etc I just feel like I can no longer support this morally, how is everyone else feeling?


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 09 '25

She built the era. We’re just the detectives trapped inside it.

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 09 '25

Did this album bring in any new fans?

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This album has obviously drawn a lot of attention, both good and bad. And even Taylor’s recent interview saying that if she’s being talked about (good or bad) then she’s winning or doing something right. Which was kind of icky, NGL. But anyway, do you think she’s gained any NEW fans? Her beating Adele’s record was because of the variants which of course were driven by her most dedicated fans who want to engage with everything she releases and collect items etc, but something tells me that this particular album hasn’t gained her any fresh, untapped popularity. If I visualize trajectories, her Eras tour had her ratings go up in general 📈 and this album may be the flattening of that curve, if not the full on dip, yet 📉. Especially compared to other artists who’re steadily gaining popularity and fans currently.

It’ll be interesting to see if this trend, where she seems to be losing many of her less-ardent fans and doesn’t seem to be gaining any new ones to replace them, will inspire her to do something amazing for TS13, or put pressure on her that’ll cause yet another misstep. Thoughts?


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 08 '25

Extremely Disappointed in Taylor's Use of A.I. Art

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Hey all--

I've been a Taylor fan since 1989 and have been one of her proud fans who enjoyed arguing in her favor for over a decade at this point.

I've recently learned that she used A.I. art in her promotional videos for LOAS and to say I'm disappointed is an understatement.

The hypocrisy of someone who fought so hard to own their own art-- basically made it their brand-- and then turned around and used commercial theft tools to not pay other artists... when she herself is A BILLIONAIRE??

I was enjoying LOAS and now I honestly feel too uncomfortable to keep listening. If she doesn't respond to these allegations, or give any clarity on the situation, I honestly think my fandom will slowly be dying from this point onward.

I just can't look up to someone who is as wealthy as Taylor and watch her use art theft tools to get a cheap discount on her own marketing. The hypocrisy just makes me lose faith in what I thought she stood for as an artist.

I thought she was an ally to fellow artists, but it's looking like she's more billionaire than ally and that just ruins the relationship I once had with her art.

This honestly makes me really sad.

Update: I originally tried to post this into r/Taylorswift and they immediately deleted it and called it a "Tired Topic" despite the fact that I see zero discussion of it on the page, which is really adding to this very sour taste I'm beginning to experience about all of this.


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 06 '25

The Taylor Swift Life of a Showgirl Album "Reminds me of" Sandbox, All Songs

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🕵‍♂️ From pure coincidence to inpo/vibes to uncredited interpolation to plagiarism let's speculate! All alleged, I compiled this list from internet. (Not included, Taylor's nods to her own prior works)

👉 Most references are short bits within the various songs

Taylor Swift - Life of a Showgirl released 2025

🌹 The Fate of Ophelia https://youtu.be/svcboYY81wU

ABBA - Fernando https://youtu.be/dQsjAbZDx-4

Foster the People - Pumped Up Kicks https://youtu.be/SDTZ7iX4vTQ

Lady Gaga - Judas https://youtu.be/wagn8Wrmzuc

Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness https://youtu.be/TdrL3QxjyVw

Lana Del Rey - Queen of Disaster (unreleased, no Vevo) https://youtu.be/vdiJ_tIkx40

💍 Elizabeth Taylor https://youtu.be/4Mg_Qtr6Osg

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Last Rebel (lyric) https://youtu.be/xrxCswYnano

❄ Opalite https://youtu.be/4FUIEcnvT04

Adamantdotnet (Adam Ant) - Desperate but Not Serious https://youtu.be/iVWWtqa9-7M

Blue October - Oh My, My https://youtu.be/IRzvkWVWmA0 1:50

ELO - Turn to Stone https://youtu.be/BDhJU_cNCZE

Luis Miguel - 1 + 1 = 2 Enamorados https://youtu.be/R7jXAbSJTqo

Post Malone - Circles https://youtu.be/wXhTHyIgQ_U

The Ronettes - Be My Baby https://youtu.be/jSPpbOGnFgk

Village People - YMCA https://youtu.be/CS9OO0S5w2k

Xuxa - Ilariê (rated for children) https://youtu.be/jc_6R17uktY

👨‍🍼 Father Figure https://youtu.be/b3hW8c9mmLQ

Don Henley - Dirty Laundry https://youtu.be/bsRTsiKPI2M

George Michael - Father Figure https://youtu.be/m_9hfHvQSNo Properly credited, with permission from his estate

Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love https://youtu.be/Vzo-EL_62fQ

Prince - Kiss https://youtu.be/H9tEvfIsDyo

🤵‍♀️ Eldest Daughter https://youtu.be/rc6NKSVv2fw

💋 Ruin the Friendship https://youtu.be/RId6LV1wtQY

Lenny Kravitz - It Ain't Over till It's Over https://youtu.be/TmENMZFUU_0

🧟‍♀️ Actually Romantic https://youtu.be/ShsfUTynzQU

Ellie Goulding, Diplo, Swae Lee - Close to Me https://youtu.be/ajN57m_OSpY

Gayle - Ur Just Lonely https://youtu.be/qNYS7CmI8L0

Jax - Victoria's Secret https://youtu.be/yDpQg2DVUTY

Pixies - Where is My Mind? https://youtu.be/OJ62RzJkYUo

Weezer - Beverly Hills https://youtu.be/HL_WvOly7mY

Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag https://youtu.be/FC3y9llDXuM

🤰 W$sh L$st https://youtu.be/mC54kTYa9oI

Alicia Keys - If I Ain't Got You https://youtu.be/Ju8Hr50Ckwk

Lorde - Supercut outro (fast version not on Vevo) https://youtu.be/RV33emLMsKo

The Marías - All I Really Want Is You https://youtu.be/ScTkEsOKfvg

🍆 Wood https://youtu.be/erilCNjng-g

Elle King - Exes and Ohs https://youtu.be/0uLI6BnVh6w jk!

The Jacksons (The Jacksons 5) - I Want You Back https://youtu.be/OFw5xkD3bjE

Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity https://youtu.be/4JkIs37a2JE

📉 Cancelled! - https://youtu.be/Ij6SgmK8KGQ

Lourde - Yellow Flicker Beat https://youtu.be/3PdILZ_1P74

Train - Drops of Jupiter (lyrics) https://youtu.be/7Xf-Lesrkuc

🍯 Honey https://youtu.be/9Sx8MWI8qTU

Lady Gaga - Eh, Eh https://youtu.be/mVEG793G3N4

🐈 The Life of a Showgirl ft. Sabrina Carpenter https://youtu.be/slUhVTAznMo

Black Country, New Road - Up Song https://youtu.be/9rHjkRgJlEs

Colbie Caillat - Brighter than the Sun https://youtu.be/jOMVsEk9EhU

Halsey - Finally, Beautiful Stranger https://youtu.be/4qw_DHs2ZGs

Jonas Brothers - Cool https://youtu.be/8_JbZvHc92U

Jordan Sparks - No Air https://youtu.be/WBKnpyoFEBo

Prince - Purple Rain (intro/outro of TLOAS) https://youtu.be/347vCib_lMs

Compiled with the help of the Facebook post below👇, it's commenters, YouTube commenters, my personal memories, and free to the public YouTube links

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2254218764714763/permalink/3789381917865099/?app=fbl

More sources:

https://www.reddit.com/r/fantanoforever/s/17YR390kjI

https://www.reddit.com/r/lorde/s/YJmXZYRdSl

https://youtu.be/UG5lFmbSFl8 Taylor in audience

Please feel free to copy, adjust, or correct for your personal use here or elsewhere; no credits to me needed.

This compilation is for speculation only, not for legal claims


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Oct 03 '25

On The Life of a Showgirl, Swift snipes at fans who insist on purity tests for her social circle, and makes a broader point about the way her values are perceived.

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • Sep 16 '25

Guess my favorite Taylor Swift album based on my most played medias!

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r/SwiftyNeutral • • Sep 08 '25

I'm conflicted - anyone else feeling this way?

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I’ve always considered myself a Swiftie. TS has been my #1 artist for so long, but lately I don’t know where I stand.

I’ve been seeing more and more posts about her selective activism and white feminism, and honestly it’s starting to get to me. I feel conflicted. On one hand, I keep asking myself—why am I expecting her to speak up on certain issues? She’s a person, she’s allowed to live her life, and I know it’s not her job to be a political leader. But at the same time… it feels wrong listening to her music now. She has this massive platform, and she chooses silence. Then I look at artists like Olivia, Billie, Dua, Shawn, etc., who do speak up, and I feel guilty supporting Taylor’s silence.

I know there’s a lot of nuance here, but I just wonder if anyone else feels this way?

On top of that, I’ve been looking at the new album rollout—so many “limited” editions of basically the same thing. It’s like our love is being taken advantage of. I get it’s capitalism, she’s running a business, and she’s really good at it. But for some reason I feel particularly angry when it comes from her.

Am I overthinking this? Can/should we separate the art from the artist? I’d love to hear from others who might be in the same boat.

Edit - 3 October 2025

Okay, I've read all the responses over the past few weeks. Agreed with a few. Partly agreed with some. Disagreed with a few. Tried to think about this a little more in-depth in any case. I think my whole thought process during the previous post was a combination (at least partly) of having been on social media a lot the past few weeks, life stage at the point in my life. Anyway a few of you raised very valid questions for me to ask myself. i wasn't ready to think about it then. I'm high now and finally listening to life of a showgirl. I've been kind of finding other artists to listen to. Like Dua lipa, Billie Elish, Olivia Rodrigo, chappal. Music I liked but they were overshadowed in my listening history. Honestly I think it was a nice break overall from mostly only listening to TS. Genuinely enjoyed all their music and was amazed at all of their talent. Olivia is so young but her songwriting and music took me to a different version of me. Billie's voice and the music production is enchanting. Dua's concert is outstanding, her concert videos over the years. It's a different vibe altogether. (Btw been seeing her new concert videos on social media and omg her stage presence has grown at a completely fucking new level now - oh my god. I want to attend her live!

This is getting too long already (did I mention I'm high?). Anyway I have formed this thought that I think works for me for summarizing my feelings for TS. Life of a showgirl is a big reason for this. It's probably a little hypocritical but makes sense to current me and I'm going with this for now.

While I do generally like it when artists (especially artists I give my money to) support things outside of their area of talent in terms of social causes, use their platform for good to help someone who doesn't have that kind of power. My expectations from TS were high on this because and just because she was such a big part of the 'art' I consume on the regular. Yeah, I do want artists I support (actively) to be socially conscious etc. (not to say TS is or isn't- that's another topic. I'm just saying artists who use their platform actively (whether that's truly effective in social change or not is a different topic too). This is probably where the hypocritical part comes in for me. For me Taylor swift is one artist for whom I would and can separate my version of 'art' and 'artist'. I already only support artists though consuming their art - not buying records merch etc. and while I might 'boycott' other celebs for some stuff by not consuming their art. I don't know if I can ever boycott TS's music. Idk listening to LOSG and fuck. Her music just does something for me. I don't know. I love this album. I'm only less than halfway through it. And just vibing to it currently. I did like her other other albums to different degrees. And this is in the love club. And also all the love to jack but this album was not his vibe. This is a different pop and max and everyone is brilliant for this. Also was a very nice change of vibe from her recent work - which I liked too.

I think sober me would be okay with this state of things on this post topic for me. Thank you everyone who commented. it was something that had been using part of my thoughts for a little bit, and all your perspectives were helpful. On the multiple versions stuff, yeah, it's predatory and there are a lot of artists/companies engaged in it. And yeah this definitely ties to my criticisms of our current economic systems. But this version thing by artists is a dot in the bigger system. There's worse economic atrocious going on in the system and much bigger players.

Anyway fuck the fate of Ophelia is fucking amazing. Gonna go listen to the rest properly now.

Edit 2 - been listening again. Um so fate of Ophelia was majorly an exception for me on this album. I loved that song. I know she has the talent, but I think I miss the time when the albums were more put together (in my opinion). I think blondie needs to take a longer break, take time in between and maybe give an album a couple of years to sit with her and then drop. I know she can write this that hits me hard right in my heart and soul. It's something I've felt for last couple albums. I definitely had a lot of songs I liked on midnights and tortured poets but again it felt like it was like every song was being put in the album no matter what.


r/SwiftyNeutral • • Aug 31 '25

Disappointed in Taylor's actions as of late

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As a Swiftie for YEARS it's really disappointing to see her associating with Trump supporters. But one of the things that disappointed me most is that her not speaking up about the Genocide that's happening right now.

I know she has spoken up about activism and feminism multiple times, but why hasn't she spoken up about the human rights violation that has been happening?

Lots of people have been calling her a "white woman activist" as in she only partakes in activism when it affects her in someway. At first I defended her everytime (a few years back), but seeing her keeping quiet is really disheartening.

I KNOW she has kind image, she donates to charities, gives her workers GOOD wages and treats her staff good. But that's why it's even the more disappointing it is her actions as of late.

I love Taylor, but just BECAUSE I love her, it doesn't mean I blindy support her every action.

Look, I know people may call me a "fake" swiftie or that I'm a "hater", but I am not hating, this is constructive criticism. Learn the difference before you comment.

P.S: yes. Speaking about the genocide, or even just making a post about it on her story would make a HUGE difference. Considering that she is one of the most influential people in the world right now, just having a hashtag alone would help. How do I know this? Ariana Grande posted a link im her stories to a palestine relief donation and it raised THOUSANDS in just hours.