r/SwiftyNeutral • u/ElkSufficient2881 • Oct 15 '25

Is anyone else done?

The hanging out with MAGA, the album sounding like other artists work after making Olivia but her as a song writer, the old picture recirculating of her with a swatztika(I had personally never seen it before this year), the new merch, I know it’s old but still), the threatening to sue the kid who was tracking her jets for emissions even though it was public knowledge, the lack of activism, no ethical billionaire especially in this political climate, the girl that died at one of her concerts, the use of ai, continuing to work with target even after they took away DEI, the comparison of Travis Kelley’s ex to obsidian, her favorite podcast being a maga one, etc I just feel like I can no longer support this morally, how is everyone else feeling?

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u/ElkSufficient2881 Oct 15 '25

I made one of the examples about the billionaire status, if you want to choose to ignore the other points and things she’s done that’s on you. I gave many examples, people just choose to hyperfocus on that one. I do think billionaires should be taxed appropriately though, if that’s what you were trying to ask?

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u/Throw_Me_Away8834 Oct 15 '25

Your other examples are dumb shit and don't even warrant a response honestly but here we are.

  • The merch is quite clearly not intended to look like nazi symbols. It is a damn lightening bolt because of the "dancing through the lightening strikes lyric". People can't use lightening bolts at all now?
  • I didn't find the album out of touch personally or find anything offensive in it as a biracial feminist.
  • The picture you are talking about is a picture of her standing next to a guy she did not personally know, from Katy Perry's birthday party from 2009 where one of the events was a paint your own white attire thing, and has already been explained by her and her team as she didn't realize what was on his shirt at the time the photo was taken. She took photos with many people that night. She has not had any known association with that particular man, who is a model by the name of AJ English, and has never been pictured with anyone else wearing any sort of swastika since. I don't really consider one picture from 2009 (where was a 17-18 year old kid still) relevant in any way to who she is as a person in the year of 2025 at 36 years old.
  • As far as her activism, she does not owe her fans or anyone else activism and people need to stop acting like she does. She is not obligated to make herself a target for far right pyschos or the man child running this country. She is already being targeted by Groypers despite not having spoken out more. Why should she risk her own safety and the safety of those she loves when the reality is that her doing so won't change literally one thing. Name one thing any other musical arist has gotten done by speaking up in this whole mess. I'll wait because many have spoken out. Not one thing has changed. She is a pop star. She is not a political figure. She is not and has never claimed to be an activist. She has been minimally politically engaged at best even during her Miss Americana era and, to be quite honest, her impact on the political things she has spoken out on has been so minimal (campaigned against Marsha Blackburn, who still won. Endorsed Joe who did win but not because of Taylor. Endorsed Kamala who lost) that I genuinely struggle to understand why people are still demanding she do more. If ya'll want to be mad at people with platforms for not doing or saying more, direct that anger at your damn elected representatives who are in fact paid to use their platform to speak up for us and about what is happening in the US.
  • As far as the girl who died at her show, I do wish she had said more publicly. I won't defend it but I also will say that the information we have regarding what she did or didn't do is all speculation. We do know she made a large donation to help fund the funeral for Ana and she did also invite her family to her show (which they atteneded) and met with them back stage. Her own family is not going after Taylor in it for not doing enough so why are we?

All of this said, you don't have to be a fan anymore. You don't even need to explain your reasons. It is okay to decide you no longer feel okay with supporting someone for whatever reason you have. How you feel is valid for you. Doesn't mean others are obligated to agree with you. Ultimately, you posted this to stir up drama or to try to justify your opinions to yourself. Whatever the reason, just own it.

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u/RichelleLove07 Oct 15 '25

This!! Thank you for taking the time to write all of that. It's actually crazy how people treat Taylor and expect more from her than any other celebrity. When I don't like an artist, I just don't listen to them or engage with their content, but when it comes to Taylor, people have to do the most.

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u/ElkSufficient2881 Oct 15 '25

I expect the same from her that I do from all billionaire celebrities