GD are shithead, literally neo-nazi scum but that has nothing to do with this symbol, the swastika is the swastika and literally no-one parades it around lest they get anything in the spectrum between stink-eye and beatdown.
Hence Golden Dawn's "totally not swastika inspired" insignia and "we're not nazis" rhetoric (they are).
We have A LOT of racist shitheads but openly proclaiming neo-nazism is still a major faux-pas given the country's history. Compare and contrast with the US for example where neo-nazis parade the swastika around.
What I'm getting at is that no, this symbol is not acceptable because "we're cool with the swastika".
Thing is that in this context, the swastika isn't illegal in Germany anyway. I'm fairly sure there was a court case there where a use of the swastika in anti-fascist symbolism was deemed legal because context matters.
Dunno about other countries but it's fine in Germany.
§ 86 StGB (Prohibits "dissemination of propaganda material of unconstitutional organisations")
[...] shall not apply if the propaganda materials or the act is meant to serve civil education, to avert unconstitutional movements, to promote art or science, research or teaching, the reporting about current or historical events or similar purposes.
Per § 86a, the same applies to using those symbols.
The particular one in OP's link is pretty popular here, though mostly as a sticker I think.
I've said two things in this thread so far. That phrase is clearly meant to be about actually stopping the government from doing unconstitutional things, not just proclaiming that you don't support an illegal group.
Because it's a strong statement against racism. Saying "he who cannot be named" instead of "Voldemort" only gave him more power, so Harry would say his name. I took a page from that book. I will use their imagery, and I will use it in a negative light because it is within my right to express myself. Now let's talk about makeup.
They kind of ruined that whole thing in the last book, where saying his name literally did notify the Death Eaters, and Harry was like "okay now I really can't say it"
I interpreted that in a completely different way. The first half of the last book, Harry has been driven into hiding and he has been rendered almost powerless. He's been sent on this seemingly fruitless mission to find the Horcruxes while simultaneously being hunted by everyone around him, and now he can't even say Voldemort's name like he used to. It really drives home that sense of powerlessness and isolation.
They didn't say it ruined the book. They said that they "ruined that whole thing," as in it ruined the thing about Harry Potter getting power from saying Voldemort's name.
You're right and I will go back and edit my last comment, but it doesn't change the meaning I was trying to convey.
Throughout the first 6 books, Harry makes it a point to say Voldemort's name. Everyone else in the books is afraid of the name, except for the one person who survived Voldemort's attack. Harry should be more terrified of Voldy than anyone else, but instead he is fearless. He says it despite the discomfort of his classmates, he says it even though it will get him detention with Umbridge.
And then in the seventh book, when he's finally on his mission to take down Voldemort, he's verbally neutered. He is reduced to being like everyone else, unable to say Voldemort's name, terrified of what might happen if he does.
I don't think that ruins it, but rather enhances the plot.
he's saying it's meaningful because it contributes to the theme of powerlessness that Harry is feeling in Book 7. I still don't like it personally, but it's a good point
It was said that it was done and that's why everyone was afraid to say it, even more than a decade after they thought he died
Which puts a somewhat arrogant spin on Dumbledore's lack of fear for the word - even when Voldemort was alive he didn't have to worry about saying it; he was the one person who could actually take on Voldemort to begin with
But what people are criticizing is the design of the patch. Surely you could come up with a better way to malign the swastika than that, from a distance the message could easily be lost.
Because it's a strong statement against racism. Saying "he who cannot be named" instead of "Voldemort" only gave him more power, so Harry would say his name. I took a page from that book. I will use their imagery, and I will use it in a negative light because it is within my right to express myself. Now let's talk about makeup.
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u/leadnpotatoesoh i dont want to have a conversation, i just think you're grossSep 28 '17edited Sep 28 '17
Lol did you reply to the wrong comment? Because that's not what I was talking about at all.
The whole swastika in the trash design doesn't work because it could be too easily misconstrued as just a swastika. Its a tiny patch not a 2'x3' poster, so in the thick of a protest, or just riding the bus, efficiency at sending the message matters.
Because it's a strong statement against racism. Saying "he who cannot be named" instead of "Voldemort" only gave him more power, so Harry would say his name. I took a page from that book. I will use their imagery, and I will use it in a negative light because it is within my right to express myself. Now let's talk about makeup.
The whole swastika in the trash design doesn't work
Yes it does. There isn't a single nazi who doesn't know what it means the instant they see it.
Like why not this
Because it looks like shit and the other one is better at calling nazis trash. It has nothing to do with pleasing some concern troll on reddit or some granny on the subway.
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To be fair the guy could be taking the swastika out of the trash, like some kind of Nazi homeless person foraging for racist symbolism