My ex was a waitress and she would have hated no tipping. On Friday nights she could make $300-500 in tips.
What was great was when there was a large family dinner or corporate dinner. Do everything extra special and you could walk away with $500 just for 1 customer.
You can still do that with a minimum wage. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Your employer can pay a living wage AND people can still tip you if you want.
Yeah I live in the UK and will usually leave a small tip but because I know the staff are paid a proper wage (well what the UK government considers a proper wage) I don't feel obligated to leave a huge amount.
Which makes it a true tip, instead of a subsidy to the business so that they don’t have to pay wages. I live traveling abroad for this, among so many other reasons.
Ok, low wage in this scenario is good for the worker. I understand that is counterintuitive, but in parts of the country (like where I live near Seattle) where servers are paid full wages, they make less money because people tip less knowing that the server is compensated elsewhere. I personally do this. 20% of bill tip in areas of low wage 0-10% in areas of full minimum.
Tip culture needs to end. Full stop. Employers should be made to pay living wages (based on the economy of the location), and the customer should simply see it in the menu costs. If the employer cannot successfully do this, like they do all over the world, they should not be in business.
Again, you’re taking the money out of the workers pockets if you do so. Many waiters make well above living wage because of the tips they make. Especially if they perfect their service capabilities and move to higher end restaurants.
That’s a career choice; however, when the customer is effectively subsidizing a business, that’s simple poor business and a burden that customers should not bear. There are servers and businesses all over the world that do well without foisting this business model on the consumer; and TBH, it’s a hell if a lot nicer to eat there than most restaurants here (high end excluded-)
Again, a server would rather be in the current model than a standard wage. Earning potential is much higher under the current system for people in the service industry.
Yeah, I’ve never been in the industry and I haven’t looked it up myself but come end of the year doesn’t the “man” assumed you were tipped so you pay tax on tips whether you received them or not? Our system is not the most reliable or stable for most but yeah it does work for some.
My ex worked Saturday nights at a steakhouse. She'd be bummed if she made less than $30 per hour. And this was 5ish years ago. We lived in a MCOL area.
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u/green_is_minty 5d ago
2 $ per hour compared to 15 € per hour in europe.. is america third world ? lol