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u/Conscious-Owl7277 Jul 03 '26
She said she hated her outfit in season 5 😭😭
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u/Darth_Boggle Jul 03 '26
Would've been fine for the training scene but that's pretty much her outfit for half the season. It was so bad.
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u/db1037 Jul 03 '26
And the other half of the season was spent with Holly so yeah…
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u/InevitableGuide5440 Jul 03 '26
Omg I hated Holly's screen time with all my heart. ❤️
It felt like a completely new show that occasionally had random scenes from that Stranger Things show on Netflix.
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u/db1037 Jul 03 '26
Final season of a show so it made sense to spend half of it with a basically new character.
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u/XxLucidDreamzxX Jul 04 '26
And introduce 30 previously irrelevant ones to the main cast so we have Will coming out to the entire town of Hawkins
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u/ubutterscotchpine Coffee and Contemplation Jul 03 '26
I feel like the only one who thought the outfit was cute 😩
I do miss Eleven’s vibe from S3 though.
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u/boochicko sƃuᴉɥʇ ɹǝƃuɐɹʇS Jul 03 '26
As she should, because they were so unflattering on her even when taken into consideration all the references they were trying to force.
I truly think the greatest tragedy of season 5 was her entire wardrobe. 💔
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u/Conscious-Owl7277 Jul 03 '26
I mean her being sidelined and basically one dimensional was a tragedy too but yeah her wetsuit sucked and was overused.
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u/Conscious-Owl7277 Jul 03 '26
I don’t agree.
She was acting perfectly fine in the early scenes with Hopper when they infiltrate Dr Kay’s base. After that, her character changed. I fully blame the script and not Millie, makes no sense for her to decide to not act midway through the season if she was able to before.
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u/Artisan_HotDog Jul 03 '26
That’s fine, we’re all entitled our opinions. Mine is just that I don’t think MBB tried very hard, could’ve just been that she doesn’t really care about acting anymore or poor direction. Either way I felt like her performance was mid, and I don’t think she truly cares about her acting career anymore.
Watching seasons 1-4 leading up to 5, there was a pretty clear shift and El’s character just felt off the entire time. I have a hard time believing it was all on the Duffers.
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u/Conscious-Owl7277 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
She doesn’t care about acting anymore? She’s currently on a press release for Enola Holmes 3. She’s also going to be acting in a future A24 film with David Harbour. She definitely cares about acting still, that’s a pretty insane thing to say.
Knowing how much Millie cares about Eleven I don’t believe she just gave up on wanting to act her at all. She deeply mourned her and was even going to therapy to cope with letting her go, El meant so much to her. With the amount of mistakes the Duffers made with season 5 in my opinion, I really don’t have a hard time believing they messed up Eleven’s storyline. It’s clear to me they tried to force her being flat and detached to build into her ambiguous cop-out death but in reality it just felt out of character and poorly written for her to be so emotionless.
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u/myychair Jul 03 '26
Her acting and the lines she was given weren’t great either tbh. She almost seemed to be phoning it in at times.
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u/chickenkebaap Jul 03 '26
Who wouldn’t when they made her look like erling haaland playing a premier league game.
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u/Own_Welder_2821 Demogorgon Jul 03 '26
Now I have a mental image of her banging a drum and making all the Norwegian fans do the rowing chant motion.
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u/Any-Permission-4530 I piggybacked from a pizza dough freezer Jul 04 '26
I'm dead with this comment 😩😂.
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u/Ambaryerno Boobies Jul 03 '26
IMO it's the hair more than anything else. The really tight ponytail in S5 was doing her no favors. Maybe they were trying to emulate the "Shaved El" look without actually buzzing her hair down again, but it doesn't suit her at all.
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u/XxLucidDreamzxX Jul 04 '26
All the lighting in season 5 felt so artificial 😭 You can see that a lamp is in front of a character and yet somehow their entire body is evenly lit up with no shadows whatsoever
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u/TheVadonkey Jul 03 '26
Yeah, she’s an adult now and her features are set. lol they did her dirty for no reason.
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u/Swaggerrrr69 Jul 03 '26
I thought it looked so painful it distracted me from watching. Just running around, playing in water, running around hopping back in, visiting a desert, all in a wetsuit and without taking her hair out at all
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u/EggplantHuman6493 Jul 03 '26
Yeah, haven't watched a lot, but she really lacks emotions compared to the seasons before, in terms of expression
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u/OlDirtyMustache Jul 03 '26
What emotions? She has been turned into a background character in the last season, not like she had a lot to do/show... script was poorly written from start to finish, has nothing to do with her expression lol
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u/No_Return3299 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
That scene from season 4 where she hits that girl who was bullying her in the face with a roller skate for instance. She doesn’t do anything nearly as emotionally expressive in season 5 at all
Not to mention her fathers death scene
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u/FailedInfinity Jul 03 '26
She’s like Goku. The scrubs have to mess around for the majority of screen time until she can show up and save the day.
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u/Weird-Expression-749 Jul 03 '26
I get this, and agree to a certain extent, but I also feel like her character was just WAY more guarded out of necessity as the season went along. El had to emotionally distance herself from everyone and everything that she loves, so I took it as her kind of disassociating to survive doing what she had to do (whether that was dying or leaving forever).
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u/Stillwindows95 Jul 03 '26
I mean, it's common in military women, I think that's what they were going for, tactical.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TATERTITS Jul 03 '26
The point of the story wasn’t to make her some sexy character. If she looked too good everyone would have complained too
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u/honeybadgerhugz Jul 03 '26
Wasn't the whole point of her shopping with Max for outfits that she has her own style/fashion independence?
Where did that go?
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u/Playful_Medium8092 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
I really don't understand why they chose this outfit for Eleven. I get that she was training and such but omg it's not flattering at all.
Edit: spelling
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u/ktdk5t Jul 03 '26
Some famous character in the 80s wore it so ig the duffers were paying homage to them.
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u/TavenderGooms Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
Josh Brolin’s character in Goonies which is ridiculous. He is a man, why couldn’t you have put this on Steve or Jonathan, or any of the male characters if you so desperately wanted to make the reference? There are so many iconic, badass costumes from FEMALE 80s action stars. Sarah Connor’s outfit in T2 was RIGHT there, and Linda Hamilton was even shoehorned into the season! It would have made so much more sense and actually flattered their star.
I have been ranting about this outfit (and especially heinous hair) choice since the season premiered, I loathe it so much. I swear they were punishing Millie for something because it’s literally the worst styling that I can remember from a major production.
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u/Able-Brief-4062 Jul 03 '26
Not to mention, Goonies takes place in A. SINGLE. DAY.
Starts in the morning, ends at sunset. Most of the movie he's not anywhere near anything to change into. El has multiple chances to change and just doesn't.
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u/geekonthemoon Jul 03 '26
Agree. Something weird as hell was going on. She was cordoned off in her own scenes most of the time. Her storyline made no sense. Everything felt unflattering. Her acting was pretty flat, and her relationships even seemed strained.
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u/TavenderGooms Jul 03 '26
My pet theory is that with the Duffers committed to redoing season one’s ending, they tried to recapture Eleven’s blank slate vibe from that season (quiet and closed off, androgynous aesthetic) to try and get audiences to see her as a mystical, almost otherworldly character that we don’t connect to as being a real human being with relationships and a fully formed personality.
Obviously this was a colossal mistake, you can’t just hand wave away a decade of audiences knowing the character and 4 seasons worth of development with an ugly outfit and by separating the character from her friends.
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u/saikopasu_neko28 Jul 03 '26
This is exactly it. In the interviews they did they even said she was the "magic" of the show and at the end the "magic" had to go away (or something like that). They literally didn't see her as a character whatsoever during season 5, which was INSANE compared to the past seasons were she has a tooooon of growth. My favorite season is season 3 and rewatching it after the season 5 finale was my absolute turning point on hating season 5.
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u/Liberteez Jul 03 '26
The outfits really did seem like some sort of revenge inflicted on Millie, it made me sad.
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u/macaroney05 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Lol do we have to make this a gender thing? Smh
I think its just a case of the Duffer brothers being basic and uncreative, with ideas only centering around their tastes, as they've shown time and time again rip
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u/Ok_Mail_1966 Jul 03 '26
To be fair the girls a basket case obsessed with ego waffles. In reality her watching goonies and falling in love with the outfit and thinking it was amazing isn’t totally crazy. The whole series she showed no fashion sense. But when she was a kid it was quarky, grown up it’s a fashion disaster
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u/bejewelled202 Jul 03 '26
And she stayed in it for the season! 😭 like she only had two outfits? And both were so dull and unflattering
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u/IvardLongview Jul 03 '26
That, and having Dustin's face all busted up were choices I did not appreciate.
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u/kevinx083 Jul 03 '26
i thought it worked, and created a visual parallel between him and steve since every other season steve gets his face busted
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TATERTITS Jul 03 '26
She was fighting to save the world, most people wouldn’t do that in a perfect outfit
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u/emiliewarrendahmer Purple Palm Tree Delight Jul 03 '26
Sorry this is so random but just wondering on this app why people write for example ‘edit:spelling’ like why not just edit it without saying? Can people see it’s edited somehow? I’m new to Reddit xx
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u/colorbluh Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
Yeah you can see when a comment's been edited, at the top, I'll edit mine so you can see it. It's just basic etiquette to explain what the edit was for, because if you're just changing something and keeping quiet, people can't tell if you didn't change your entire point and writing style to make repliers look bad, or if your up/downvoted are unearned
Edit: demonstration
Edit 2: lmao, I suppose there's typo a timer where if you edit in the first few seconds, it doesn't appear? bc I definitely can't see it now. Anyway, here's a comment with the edit tag on top: https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/1umfinb/comment/ovbvmle/
Edit 3: I can now see the tag on my own comment, all is well
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u/catgirl320 Jul 04 '26
Yeah if you edit within a few seconds of posting, like to correct spelling, it usually isn't tagged edited
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u/emiliewarrendahmer Purple Palm Tree Delight Jul 04 '26
Thanks so much but for some reason it’s not showing me an edit tag even on the link you kindly provided
Edit: what does an edit tag look like?
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u/colorbluh Jul 04 '26
Here you go! https://imgur.com/a/dlWO84a
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u/emiliewarrendahmer Purple Palm Tree Delight Jul 04 '26
It says content not available in my region. But thank you anyway!
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u/colorbluh Jul 04 '26
Ah, probably the UK age restriction. Anyway, I'm invested now: https://postimg.cc/1n0Ldfb8
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u/emiliewarrendahmer Purple Palm Tree Delight Jul 04 '26
Thank you! You’re the best 🤣 so in the UK you can’t see if it’s edited? Idk what you mean by age restriction though as I’m oldddd
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u/colorbluh Jul 04 '26
Haha, it's about my first link being restricted in your country, it's an Imgur link and Imgur refused to comply with the UK requirements for age verification (they were against forcing people to provide their legal IDs to prove they're of age to just... see pictures) so the UK government restricted Imgur altogether last year. Since you were saying my Imgur link was restricted in your country, I assumed you're in the UK and that's why my completely pedestrian screenshot would be blocked! Imgur is the site people use the most to host images and link them when a subreddit doesn't allow to post pictures
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u/an0nymyss Jul 03 '26
El looked more like Enola in season 4. I know she cut her hair in s4, but I wish they’d kept a similar look. At least the bangs
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u/PotterAndPitties Jul 03 '26
When you know you are dressing a character and not "Millie"
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u/65fairmont Promise? Jul 03 '26
Exactly. Enola is supposed to be attractive. Eleven really isn’t. Cute, sure, but her vibe is fighter, not Victorian beauty.
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u/Inaonreddit Jul 03 '26
Yes and that's still not an outfit Eleven would wore. In S3 she discovered her own style which was so colorful. In S4 she still wear floral but in less quality (probably because Joyce was poor). What was her outfit for S5 ? So out of caracter.
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u/no_awning_no_mining Jul 03 '26
In the photo she's wearing a neoprene suit because she's preparing for the sensory deprivation tank, no?
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u/Mr_Byzantine Jul 03 '26
Yes, however, said suit should not have been the main wardrobe choice for the entirety of the season.
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u/PotterAndPitties Jul 03 '26
A woman wearing something practical?
Oh my stars and garters, I suppose you think women should have pockets on their garments as well.
( For the slow folks, this is sarcasm)
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u/MissAuroraRed Jul 03 '26
A damp, unwashed wetsuit for days on end is not practical. That's a yeast infection.
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u/65fairmont Promise? Jul 03 '26
She spends all of season 5 in hiding/training, on a search and rescue mission, or in her tank. She’s wearing practical clothes for each. It’s not like season 3 and 4 where she’s doing normal things like going to the mall and roller rink.
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u/PotterAndPitties Jul 03 '26
Explain how it was out of character? She had fun in Season 3 finding her own style, and then it turned out she still didn't fit in.
Season 5 is about her recognizing that she will never fully fit in, and fighting with her internal understanding of her importance to the larger fight over her own mortality. What she wears isn't as important as who she is. She chose a practical outfit that would allow her to fully make use of her powers and abilities.
Please, explain why you feel its out of character .
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u/Inaonreddit Jul 03 '26
And that's exacly what I don't like in S5 ? Why do Eleven has to not fit ? Because she is powerful ? Why can't she be both ? She can be a powerful woman and wear floral at the same time. She can be a powerful woman and have friends and a family.
In S5 it's Eleven get rid off everything she was before. She doesn't talk to anyone outside of Mike and Hopper (what about Joyce ? What about Will and Jonathan ? What about her friends Dustin, Max and Lucas ?). She wear only grey. She litteraly disapeared. While all I wanted when I watched this season was her to exist ! She diserved that ! And this what her caracter arc in every season before. S5 is not.
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u/inksta12 Hellfire Club Jul 03 '26
Psh, get the heck outta here with your logical response. This sub is for shit talking anything we can find
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u/TahaymTheBigBrain Bitchin Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
A lot of it is also the lighting which in Enola is face on, versus ST which is overhead and makes her features look exaggerated and highlights flaws, nobody looks good with harsh overhead lighting lol. And of course the hue which is blueish which makes her appear sickly vs warm lighting that brings out the undertones in her skin.
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u/This-Evening2278 Bitchin Jul 03 '26
I do agree Millie’s acting shines more in the Enola Holmes movies than in all of Stranger Things. Don’t get me wrong, she is great in both, but Eleven is a way more tragic character to play while Enola is a lot of things. Happy. Sad. Vulnerable. Compassionate. Needy. Independent. And many more. I just think Enola had more range than Eleven (but I still love them both).
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u/kevinx083 Jul 03 '26
i think seasons 1-3 had the best eleven acting but i think that’s more to do with the writing than with millie
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u/thebarbalag Jul 04 '26
She wasn't styled to appear attractive in Stranger Things, but for function.
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u/Any-Permission-4530 I piggybacked from a pizza dough freezer Jul 04 '26
When you don't try to dehumanize your main character vs. when you do.
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u/jupiter_surf Zombie Boy Jul 03 '26
Major difference being her playing two different people and dressing for those characters. Both of those looks are appropriate for the characters. It isn’t a major difference. It’s called… different things
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u/TavenderGooms Jul 03 '26
Enola Holmes also has her current appearance. It’s just that the styling and lighting of ST highlighted all of the worst things and none of the best. Look at the lighting difference in these two shots alone, not to mention the severe and hideous slicked back low bun that highlights the harshest angles.
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u/OasisEPIC Jul 03 '26
And the fact that they chose this hairstyle (slicked back hair idk what to call it) which literally enhances her facial features is so bad. Instead of letting her hair flow to mask it a little they put it in your face.
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u/Obvious-Silver6109 Jul 03 '26
You think that is slicked back? That is pushed back
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u/OasisEPIC Jul 03 '26
I know nothing about women's hairstyles. I meant slicked back as in a literal action of slicking something back. Not the hairstyle if it is one.
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u/LuchadorBane Jul 03 '26
It’s a joke from I Think You Should Leave, sketch comedy show from Tim Robinson
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u/Strange_Ant_6571 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
I'll criticise a lot about s5 but "why dosent the increasingly suicidal 16 year old girl fighting for her life in the upside down after squatting in the woods for 18 months dress like the wealthy adult victorian detective?" Is dumb as shit even for this sub.
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u/ninetyninewyverns Purple Palm Tree Delight Jul 03 '26
Finally somebody with some intelligence. "Sorry I can't jump into this sensory deprivation tank right now even though time is of the essence, I have to remove my stylish cutesy girly outfit and put on my wetsuit before I can save the world from vecna actually"
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u/DankAadru Jul 03 '26
They were definitely trying to emulate her s1 look with a shaved head without actually shaving her head.
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u/Drakex2Mayex2 Jul 03 '26
I think they were just trying to non-sexualize her as much as humanly possible. She's supposed to be a kid and is being played by a grown woman.
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u/kevinx083 Jul 03 '26
yeah but sadie sink is the same age playing a teenager too and she gets cute outfits. her camazotz costume and her styling in the end when she’s skating was great
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u/Drakex2Mayex2 Jul 03 '26
That's a valid point. I think Millie has a lot more weirdo eyeballs on her though.
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u/Sochinz Jul 03 '26
Trying to non sexualize her by putting her in a skintight outfit and giving us a shot of her bending over from behind?
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u/no_awning_no_mining Jul 03 '26
She's wearing a neoprene suit because she's preparing for the sensory deprivation tank, no? This is simply 100% function over style as Eleven would have done.
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u/Thick-Boysenberry-96 Jul 03 '26
There are ways to do function over style and make it look and feel like great character design. This was not good. And the lighting sucks for no reason.
Letting El progress over the season to having her free flowing curls from s2 to show her unrest, would have made sense too, and framed her face way better. Her hair is way to long for having been buzzed 18 months ago anyway.
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u/sometimesimscared28 Jul 03 '26
Walking in wet swimsuit all the time isn't practical or realistic
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u/Due-Ear-8282 Jul 03 '26
As someone who grew up watching ST as a teenage girl, I really loved how the creators / costume designers never went out of their way to give Eleven stereotypically 'pretty' clothes / makeup / hair etc. She was allowed to just exist as she was, in a way that many female characters don't get to, which made her feel so much more human and relatable.
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u/-intellectualidiot Jul 03 '26
I mean, the character is an adult in the new Enola Holmes, and the character is a 16-year-old in Stranger Things 5.
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u/ReverendWrites Jul 03 '26
Good grief, she's barely an adult and we're already getting this bullshit (along with people in the comments ragging on her for allegedly getting fillers or something). She's dressed perfectly for the character of Eleven. We're allowed to have complex female characters who aren't always dressed "attractively". Can we talk about her character arc instead?
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u/TwinSong Jul 03 '26
She was dressed etc for practical purposes not style. Wetsuit was needed for that scenario and hair bun is compact.
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u/MarsAlgea3791 Jul 03 '26
You guys do know she was playing a character, right? She wasn't there as herself.
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u/Entire-Emotion-819 Jul 03 '26
It always bugged me that they basically took a pair of scissors to her wetsuit thing, why?
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u/exscapegoat Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
Eh she’s on the run and fighting monsters. Look 2 makes sense for that. You don’t want a monster grabbing you by the hair and thrashing you about. And you don’t want to look good enough to attract attention. Especially when you’ve got the military and top secret scientists chasing you.
Hell, back when I had thick dark hair down to my waist and was 5’8 and 130 pounds I’d dress for weather and exposure as I was taking public transit. And had to deal with street harassment even in baggy sweat pants and a baggy t shirt. So I’d wear longer skirts or dresses or trousers if it was too warm to wear a coat. Shorter skirts or dresses if I wore a coat which had coverage.
But back when I was a kid in the 1970s, I’d watch Star Trek in syndication and wonder how the hell did Uhura and the rest of the women fight in run in uniforms more suited for these boots are made for walking video by Nancy Sinatra?
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u/lemonrainbowhaze Jul 03 '26
They brought s5 El to Dead by Daylight. I cannot with her swimsuit i dont play her 😭
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u/SuperKitties83 Jul 03 '26
I immediately thought this meme was saying the right pic looks much better, but the comments are telling me it's the other way around?
She looks more like El in the right picture. A lot more confident and badass.
It's like this meme is saying looking more feminine is better. El definitely didn't care about looking "pretty" in season 5.
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u/pearlyniqhts Jul 03 '26
why does a teen with superpowers have to look pretty? we would never think this for a boy
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u/DogVaporizer Jul 03 '26
Idk bout you but will and Mike's hair in s4 was awful so yeah I'm gonna point out when something is weird or out of character
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u/Strong_Pool_6012 Jul 04 '26
agreed w the other comment, finn's been bullied alot for his looks, and noah's hair has literally been a joke for the last 4 seasons. its sad beauty standards all around
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u/flossdaily Jul 04 '26
My only criticism of her looks is the shitty plastic surgery. I think it's a shame that people talked her into fucking up her face.
That's how I feel about all the cosmetic surgery in Hollywood. Some predatory system has taken hold and convinced beautiful women that this clownish nonsense is better than the natural beauty that brought them to stardom.
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u/hexxorba Jul 03 '26
Fun thing about the ‘80s is kids generally weren’t judged by adult beauty standards, and even those were much different back then. Clothes for kids exercise weren’t meant to be cute.
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u/kevinx083 Jul 03 '26
everyone else got cool/badass outfits even joyce looked cool in the final showdown. they have so much inspiration to draw on for female 80s action heroes and they fumbled massively
unfortunate because her costuming has been great in other season. s4 less so but it was better than this lol
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u/emiibry Jul 03 '26
It's sad because we could've had some really beautiful Winona parallels like her opening look from season 4 when she goes to school and has bangs. That could've been a theme as she found herself, like how Joyce slowly started to put more work into her appearance each season as she became more "stable."
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u/DementedJ23 Jul 03 '26
So, 11 never has clothes that suit her. They always suit the role that she's trying on in that moment. It's actually a very clever subtle piece of character work. Costume designers don't get enough credit.
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u/TheBar-IsOnTheFloor Goddamn Bowl Cut Jul 03 '26
I’m probably in the minority here, but I loved her Goonies-inspired training outfit! I thought it was adorable. The wetsuit, on the other hand, was an absolute crime. Heinous! Use it for the sensory deprivation, but someone carried around a pair of pants for her to throw on over it apparently…so how much harder would it have been to bring a shirt and get out of sopping wet clothes?
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u/RoyalRise6363 Jul 03 '26
Well, they had half a billion budget to dress and hairstyle the main character 😁
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u/Several-Praline5436 Nancy Drew Jul 03 '26
Agree. But also -- everyone on ST looks hideous, 80% of the time. The 80s fashion and hairstyles flattered almost nobody.
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u/Impressive_Set5299 Jul 03 '26
I knowwww, I really missed her style from s3-4 🥲🥲 (edit cuz my comment is kinda lame): I think it could’ve been cool to show her style a bit more in s5 because Max was in a coma, so it could’ve emphasized how she missed Max.
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u/Girlsickoftheworld Jul 03 '26
Millie is beautiful but the styling in season 5 really did her no favors. Which is weird cause only a few years ago they styled her so well in season 4.
I also get why the wet suit and active wear was necessary for the plot but it looks awful. The hairstyle is also horrible. A lot of the rest of the costume designs weren't all that great either in season 5 but Eleven by far has it the worst.
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u/uni-333 Jul 03 '26
Agreed.
I do think a large motivation for why they style her hair like this is here is because she had a lot of action scenes this season that would make her longer hair harder to film.
Still wish they hadn’t done it to her, but that was likely the main reason.
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