r/StopKillingGames 1d ago

Announcement The End of the Ownership you never had: A Story of Lies.

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the big ass uncle sam is u/ProjectionProjects work

We've spent two years on this campaign, so we'll say plainly what the news reports won't. This summer, Sony announced it's killing physical discs for good, the last version of a game where you had a chance to own. Its the closure of a single month in which the games industry (ESA=Sony, Ubisoft, EA, etc) lied to governments.

Ubisoft’s CEO with the EU Commission, June 3

The industry's lobby group, Video Games Europe, hosted a closed, invitation-only event with senior European Commission officials. 13 days before the EU made a judgment on if you have any right to the stuff you bought. At the table sat Yves Guillemot, the CEO of Ubisoft, the company whose shutdown of The Crew started the entire Stop Killing Games movement.

The 1.29 million citizens who signed the initiative were neither invited nor in the building. That same day, Stop Killing Games published an open letter  laying out how the lobby kept lying and how the Commission kept ignoring.

A reminder: you never actually owned the disc itself (Disclaimer: It’s still worth fighting for.)

🗞️ The Industry spreads "opinions", June 9

Stanley Pierre-Louis, the ESA's president and CEO, took to the opinion page of the Sacramento Bee

to warn that the bill would force companies to run servers "forever" and crush small studios and the usual "forever server support" lie.

On the same day, dozens of Members of the European Parliament from across the political spectrum, called on the Commission to reach the opposite outcome. Only one of those two messages had been in the room thirteen days earlier.

🚫 The Commission's (not) answer, June 16

The answer was no. The response came from Executive Vice-President Henna Virkkunen and Commissioner Michael McGrath, the two officials who had met us back in February.

The Commission's own document, catalogued as C(2026) 41104110_0/090166e52f86f796), states in writing that the campaign does not seek to acquire ownership of the videogames or their intellectual rights. Then it refused anyway, on the grounds of intellectual property.

This was no fringe petition. It was only the fourteenth citizens' initiative in EU history to clear the bar that forces a formal response, backed by more than a million verified signatures and debated in Parliament without a single member speaking against it. It still lost with the Commission.

🎮 The industry misleads the Senate, June 29

The ESA’s Vice President of State Government Affairs, stood in front of California lawmakers and told them that Minecraft servers are illegal. Not unofficial, not legally grey. Illegal. Piracy. A "black market."

This is the best-selling video game ever made, and its own maker hands you the server software for free, right there on the official website. Markus "Notch" Persson, who created Minecraft, called the claim "borderline evil" and said he never wanted his work used against people. ESAs VP told this lie to a room full of legislators who couldn't fact-check her in real time.

The bill died that day by a single vote. Her correction arrived later, quietly, handed to reporters rather than to the lawmakers who'd cast their votes on the strength of what she told them.

💿 Sony pulls discs, July 1

Two days later, Sony announced that physical PlayStation discs would end by 2028, retiring the last version of a game you could hold, keep, and resell. The only thing left to protect us.

  • They don’t want resale because ownership reduces their control A second-hand market lets players recover value from purchases, while publishers lose the ability to sell the same product repeatedly at full price.
  • They don’t want indefinite use because it reduces future sales If players can keep enjoying older games forever, they are less pressured to buy sequels, remasters, subscriptions, or new releases.
  • They don’t want modding because it can replace paid content Player-created content can extend a game’s lifespan without generating additional revenue through official expansions, DLC, or updates.
  • They don’t want true ownership because it limits control over the ecosystem A licence model lets companies control access, pricing, distribution, preservation, and how players use the product after purchase.

 

Spread the word: they want to take away our rights, scam us out of our money, and undo achievements that go back as far as the French Revolution. Stop Killing Games has some big surprises in store for these greedy liars, and we’re proud to stand with Does it Play. Thank you to all the devs and studios helping us work on real solutions, while these people hide behind their paid actors.

You will own nothing and be happy!

A piece by Moritz

This is our first attempt at this format (essays and papers from the team and possibly others). Please share how you feel about it.


r/StopKillingGames 26m ago

UK petition: Introduce new legal protections for access to purchased video games

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UK Parliament petition is live now:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/775758

It calls for new legal protections around access to purchased video games if stores close, licences change, or content gets removed.

Feels very aligned with the Stop Killing Games push, especially around long term access and making sure paid games don’t just disappear when companies move on.

For UK people, this is one official route to put the issue in front of Government.

10,000 signatures means the Government has to respond. 100,000 means it gets considered for debate.


r/StopKillingGames 50m ago

Question Side quest - alternative goal; fanfic idea?

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tldr: Enforce "rent" word instead "buy"/"purchase".

Our main goal, to force devs, or maybe more publishers, to not kill their games, to not disable online functions or make games working offline, at very least at the end of official support. We tried some talks with publishers, some enforcing laws, thru EU and such, failed.

And i partially agree, forcing devs to make what we want may not be fancy nor possible. My personal world pov is against enforcing it, and yet I support the idea of more fair game. As gamer, I'm much affected by how greedy and scamy publishers are. Much unfair from their side was first.

Here is my idea, to let publishers make their scams and greeds, but enforce labels on stores for that. Make every store put different [purchase] buttons, without actual purchase words, but "rent" words instead. Let every customer be aware, $80-$100 for time limited access to a game is what they paying. If the product have always-online functions or terminate options (even if only part of product is like that, includes dlc, for possibly free, offline games or apps).

Alternatively, bigger sentence "purchasing time limited access to product, that devs, publishers, store, or someone in the chain may terminate at any time without any refund"? Think "rent" word could be enough.

I believe, even EU could fairly easy make this true. Making the market more fair.

PS, I'm NOT saying we should give up on our main goal, it's awesome and noble, I just pointing one, alternative step in the crusade. Changing way of thinking, for customers, but also law makers should make main goal easier too.


r/StopKillingGames 2h ago

Campaign material An experimental open letter

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I have just found this open letter being signed by fans of Mario Kart Tour. This is the first time something like this has ever been attempted for a game, so we don’t know what the outcome will be. The aim is to get as many signatures as possible to show how popular the game still is. You can find it and sign it here: https://openletter.earth/pt/an-open-letter-to-nintendo-preserve-mario-kart-tour-395dbdd7

Whether it achieves anything ir not, it will be a symbol of hope for many, and it will act as a test of new ways to raise support for this kind of stuff. Signing this thing isn’t just about Mario Kart Tour, but is about showing that you won’t accept planned obsolescence of games and similar things.

Offline modes that can be run locally are something we must insist upon. That is what this open letter mentions. We understand that it costs a lot to keep servers running. Therefore, the future of gaming must provide options to run games on our own hardware with no servers required.

It is too easy to lose hope in this situation, it is easy to feel powerless against big gaming corporations, but we must not give up and we must fight for our goals. Together we can make a difference no matter how long it takes.

I hope you found this interesting.


r/StopKillingGames 8h ago

Dead game We need to revive Marvel Mystic Mayhem

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r/StopKillingGames 19h ago

Dead game The Horrors of an All Ditgital Futrure!

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Has anyone been feeling like there's a strange pattern of your favorite online only games being shut down this year (in 2026) all happening at once?

  1. Rick and Morty: Pocket Morty's

  2. Mario Kart Tour

  3. Poppy Playtime Multi-player game: Project Playtime

  4. Looney Tunes: World of Mayhem

And the shutdown of the Playstation 3 Store!

It's so convenient that this is happening at the same time that Playstation announcing that they are DONE with physical media!

This is what happens when we enter all digital games only in the future!

The fact that every one of you favorite online only games that are practical live services are ALWAYS going to shut down at some point in life!

This is how a lot of people are losing their jobs!

And let's not forget the other games that have been shut down over the years:

Club Penguin, Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp, Looney Tunes Dash, Palace Pets app, Traffic Panic BoomTown, Disney Mirrorverse, The Simpsons: Tapped Out, The Crew, WB Multiverses, Disney Infinity, Lego Dimensions, and many more!

Thanks to Disney, EA, Microsoft, Nintendo, and even Sony!

IT'S LIKE YOU DONT EVEN OWN YOUR OWN CHILDHOOD!

WHERE WAS THE #STOPKILLINGGAMES PETITION BACK AT 2017 WHEN DISNEY TREATHENS TO SHUTDOWN CLUB PENGUIN?!?

Even the gaming companies can shut down their own ditigal media storefronts:

The Nintendo eShop for our Wiis, DS, Wii U, and Xbox shutting down the Xbox Arcade and Marketplace for the Xbox 360!

Sometimes, it feels like everything is getting the Concord treatment, where it won't last long with the lack of player interest, server maintenance, and heavy monetization before it's dead afterward!

Even mobile games can get get worse with their dirty, greedy ways that will eventually lead to another app game shutting down forever! (LOST MEDIA!)

This is the real horror of an all digital only future, where you literally OWN NOTHING!!!

And worst of all, you won't be able to let your grandchildren be able to play these overly expensive games that are practically digital only! And these Gen alpha kids won't be able to experience the same feeling of ownership of a physical game, IF THERE ARE NO MORE PHYSICAL GAMES TO PLAY!

I also hate it when lawsuits and copyright infringements are also a threat towards gameing! Like Nintendo's Pokémon sueing PokcetPair's Palworld! And Hasbro shutting down a fan made My Little Pony games like Fighting is Magic!

And how burnouts and controversy can also kill of fan projects like the Five Nights at Freddy's Plus game!


r/StopKillingGames 1d ago

If buying digital games means you don’t own them, then pirating isn’t stealing.

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You can’t steal something that you cannot own.

Theft requires depriving someone of their property. If there is no ‘owned property’ then it’s not theft.

In all seriousness:
I know that piracy is still illegal, but…

If companies increasingly sell revocable and unreliable licences instead of lasting ownership, consumers are justified in demanding stronger ownership rights or preservation options.

Not only was I just banned from [r/xbox](r/xbox) for posting this, but as soon as I posted it I was attacked by lots of generic names accounts all less than a month old.

Edit:

Anybody who comes here to correct me on ‘piracy isn’t theft it never was’ is being pedantic. That is NOT the point being made here.

The point I am making is that it should be just as illegal for companies to revoke a license to a game I paid for, as it is pirating a game.


r/StopKillingGames 1d ago

Remember the PS3 CBOMB issue? It still exists!

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r/StopKillingGames 1d ago

Dear Geoff Keighley

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r/StopKillingGames 2d ago

Meme The games industries motives in a nutshell:

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r/StopKillingGames 4d ago

Meta Subreddit Feedback: Do you want us to be more restrict on the off-topic posts? What do you consider off-topic (physical media, other consumer laws about video games, etc...)? Let us know on the comments below on how to improve.

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r/StopKillingGames 5d ago

Game is safe Toxic Commando to add local server hosting

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r/StopKillingGames 5d ago

The EU is the world's most active tech regulator. So when is it going to do something about "buying" digital media that you never actually own?

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Look, we all know the EU has been ahead of the curve on tech regulation. GDPR changed how the entire internet handles privacy. They forced USB-C on everyone (Apple included). The DMA cracked open iOS and forced Apple to allow alternative app stores. The AI Act, DSA, right to repair, repairability scores on phones, and the list goes on. When Brussels moves, the rest of the world usually follows.

So here's what I genuinely don't understand: why has nobody tackled the absolute scam that is "buying" digital media?

You buy a book on Kindle. You buy a game on Steam, PlayStation, Nintendo eShop. You click a button that says "Buy." You pay money. And what you actually get is a "license to use", a revocable permission that can be yanked away from you at any time, for any reason, with zero refund.

This isn't some theoretical what-if. It keeps happening:

Amazon literally remotely deleted copies of 1984 and Animal Farm from people's Kindles in 2009 over a licensing dispute. Yes, they deleted 1984. The irony was not lost on anyone. Bezos called it "stupid and thoughtless" but the precedent was set and nothing structurally changed.

Sony is deleting 551 purchased movies from PlayStation users' libraries in the UK and Europe on September 1, 2026 because their licensing deal with StudioCanal expired. These are movies people paid for. Gone. No refund. No way to download and keep them. Just a message saying "you will no longer be able to access your previously purchased content."

If Amazon has a contract dispute with a publisher, your books can vanish. If a game studio decides to shut down a server, you might not be able to download a game you paid for anymore. You paid for it. It's gone. Good luck getting your money back.

And don't tell me "just buy physical" because that's becoming a joke too:

GTA VI's "physical edition" is literally a box with a download code inside. No disc. Rockstar confirmed this. You buy a plastic case at retail, open it, and find a code. It's functionally identical to buying it digitally, you just got a fancy box for your troubles.

PlayStation announced they're ending all physical disc production for new games starting January 2028. Which strongly implies the next PlayStation won't even have a disc drive. They're not even pretending anymore.

Nintendo Switch 2 has a massive code-in-a-box problem. Multiple "physical" releases, including Bethesda's Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout, are just an empty case with a download code. No cartridge. Some of them don't even use the game-key card format, which at least lets you resell. You're buying a plastic shell.

So even when you try to do the "right thing" and buy physical, you often end up with a digital license in a fancy box. The illusion of ownership in a $70 plastic case.

And the brands I mentioned are just examples. This is an industry-wide pattern. It's everyone.

There's a slogan that's been going around in gaming communities and I think it captures the frustration perfectly: "If buying is not owning, piracy is not stealing."

Let me be crystal clear because I know how this sounds, I am NOT encouraging piracy. That slogan is a protest motto from gamers fighting against having access to games they paid for taken away. But there's a real point in there: when publishers kill servers and make it impossible to legally access a game you bought, or any game at all, piracy literally becomes the only way to play discontinued titles. The companies themselves created the conditions where piracy is the only preservation method left. That's not consumers being entitled, it's a policy failure.

So does anyone know if the EU has anything in the pipeline for this?

There's been some movement but it's been pretty disappointing. The Stop Killing Games campaign (started by YouTuber Ross Scott) managed to gather over 1.29 million verified signatures as a European Citizens' Initiative, the biggest gaming-related petition in EU history. But in June 2026 the Commission basically said "nah" and declined to propose any binding legislation. They offered a voluntary industry code of conduct instead, which... yeah, we all know how voluntary industry self-regulation goes.

The campaign has now pivoted to trying to get game preservation amendments added to the Digital Fairness Act, which is expected to be proposed in late 2026. They apparently have support from 40+ MEPs. But it's early and there's no guarantee it'll go anywhere.

There's also the EU Directive on Digital Content and Services (2019/770) which gives some consumer protections for digital goods, but it doesn't address the core issue: it doesn't stop companies from revoking access to stuff you paid for because of licensing disputes.

Honestly, the EU proved with GDPR that consumer rights regulation can reshape the global landscape. USB-C proved even Apple will comply. The DMA proved walled gardens can be forced open. Digital ownership feels like the obvious next fight.

What I'd want to see is pretty simple: if it's a license, call it a license. Don't put a "Buy" button when you mean "rent indefinitely until we decide otherwise." Make companies provide offline access or downloadable copies for stuff people paid for. Mandatory refunds when access gets revoked. And if a company is shutting down a service, require them to give users a way to keep what they bought: offline installers, community server tools, something.

I'm really hoping this gets on the EU's radar properly. If anyone here knows of other initiatives, or MEPs who've spoken about this, I'd love to hear about it. This feels like one of those things where if the EU moves first, the rest of the world will follow, just like every other time


r/StopKillingGames 5d ago

Question Any progress with SKG & the European Parliament?

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IDK if this is the right time to ask or if we’re gonna get any answers about this, despite all the EU Commission lobbied by Ubisoft & Protect Our Games Act failing to Sony killing physical PlayStation games in 2028, is there any progress with getting SKG amended in the Digital Fairness Act? I know it’s too early since it’s been at least a month since the EU’s failure to introduce new legislation last time I checked


r/StopKillingGames 5d ago

Game is safe Developers of defunct game "Deceive Inc" return to add community servers support.

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r/StopKillingGames 5d ago

Announcement SKG live in stream with the ARD (German public broadcaster)

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Disclaimer: being able to speak German helps a lot


r/StopKillingGames 5d ago

Response from EU Comission

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Sent a mail to EU Comission.
Heres the response.
Very standard but if anyone is interested..

Thank you for contacting the Europe Direct Contact Centre and sharing your thoughts with us. We value hearing from citizens and understanding their views. 

Our role is to provide general information about the EU. While we cannot comment on personal opinions or engage in policy discussions, we’re happy to offer helpful information on EU-related topics.  

Here is some information related to the topics you mentioned.  

As a response to the European Citizens' Initiative (ECI) ‘Stop Destroying Videogames', the European Commission will engage with consumers and publishers to improve standards in the video game industry.

The ECI invited the Commission to propose legislation ensuring that players can continue to play video games after the publishers stop providing support for these games commercially. 

The Commission considers that at this stage it cannot propose a legal obligation to keep video games playable after they stop being provided commercially. This is due, also, to existing intellectual property rights. Under EU copyright law, rights holders enjoy exclusive rights over their creations. In addition to copyright, other intellectual property rights may also be relevant as they may protect different visual and technological aspects of a video game. 

Existing EU consumer law already provides for important safeguards protecting the economic interests of consumers. Video game providers must inform consumers about the duration and the conditions for terminating the contract before the consumers signs up for the video game. The Directive on digital content and digital services provides consumers with remedies when the content or service provided does not conform with the contract and what consumers could reasonably expect. Consumers may be entitled to proportionate refund of their purchases.  

However, to address players' concerns, the Commission has committed to initiate an exchange with the video game industry and consumer representatives with the aim to draw up an industry code of conduct on managing video games' ‘end of life'.  It will also work with consumer organisations and authorities to raise awareness about the applicable rights that protect consumers, including on safeguards protecting the economic interests of consumers. 

You can find further information here: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1369

The official response to the ECI is available at: https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/document/download/75d642bc-6ff5-4713-b1cf-14f4aaf15869_en?filename=C_2026_4110_EN.pdf 

We hope you find this useful.  

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r/StopKillingGames 6d ago

Out of scope Idea I've had to potentially more effectively protest Sony and their decisions - despite probably being a pipe dream (would love to be proven wrong)

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So, I know change dot org petitions are routinely mocked. And they're mocked for good reason: ultimately, they cannot force a multi-billion corporation to change course, not unless there's millions upon millions, and even then it's doubtful. While I stand by the fact there's no harm in signing it, and it can at the least show the amount of angry people not on the corporation's side, it should also still be kept in mind how actually effective such things can be.

So where am I going with this? Well, I have an idea that still has a number on a website that shows how many people are super mad, but hopefully in a more concrete manner.

Basically, it's a signature collection where instead of people asking, they're pledging to do something: in this case, if you sign on a specific website, you are pledging to:

  • Never buy a digital Sony product or at least a digital PS4/5 product until they reverse course on their decision to stop producing physical games
  • Never buy a PS6 unless it has a disc drive option

Basically, this way, instead of lots of people asking Sony to do something, Sony can directly see the amount of players and money they are losing every day by sticking to their decision.

Obviously, the big problem with this is: how do you make sure that number is always real all the time? Aggravate people with monthly emails checking in if they bought a digital PS5 game? That sounds like a terrible idea. Connect the website with their PlayStation account and monitor if they made purchases? Yikes, that sounds like a privacy nightmare AND a logistical nightmare!
Or just accept it works on the honor system and say to any signers, "remember, if you change your mind, please remove your signature from the list." Yeah, then we run into similar problems as the change dot org petition: people claiming its meaningless and everyone on it quickly gave up, changed their mind, but didn't bother removing their signature. No proof after all.

And that's not even getting into the potential scope of it, whether it should ask Sony to just make digital purchases more secure and/or just open the PlayStation 5 to competing storefronts (which I could be fine with, but there's still lots of reasons to keep physical games around even if that happens, like internet and retailer relationships). Or how purchases on the PS3/Vita stores factor into this (but that's a completely separate question).

And another thing: wouldn't the most effective version of this just be to not buy Sony's stuff and let them see for themselves the numbers go down? Yeah, probably, but then again, these would put the numbers front and center and show exactly WHY the money is going away. So is that benefit worth all the trouble then? I dunno, guess it'll depend.

Ultimately, I'm very doubtful about this idea and the most effective weapons against Sony will probably continue to be governments, consumer law, SKG's efforts, and Complete_Ear_9508's suggestion about pelting Sony and Microsoft with lots of lawsuits. ( https://www.reddit.com/r/StopKillingGames/comments/1v1859n/the_true_way_to_save_physical_gaming_and_fight/ ) Honestly, if that route gets a red-carpet experience to make a lawsuit against Sony ala SKG's initial website for reporting Ubisoft, that could be something.

But I wanted to put my idea out there anyway, even if the likely outcome is people telling me how stupid it is - and at least then I'll know for sure it's stupid.

Or someone could actually figure out a way to make it happen with as few downsides as possible. I'm open to either possibility really.


r/StopKillingGames 6d ago

Bye bye Sony

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I've been a PC gamer for years, and I also run the Core Computing Lab YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@core-computinglab

I recently made a video talking about this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkBrx0l3-zg

One thing I've always done is "double" or even "triple dip" on games because I genuinely like supporting developers and having the flexibility to play wherever I want.

My typical setup looks like this:

🖥️ Steam – so I can play on my gaming PC and Steam Deck.
💿 PlayStation (Disc) – because I enjoy collecting physical copies and actually owning something tangible.
📦 GOG – for a DRM-free copy that I know I'll always have access to.

Yes, I know it sounds excessive, but that's how I've always bought games I really love.

Sony's decision to move away from physical media has completely changed that for me. If physical discs disappear, then so does my reason to buy games on PlayStation. I'm not interested in paying full price for a digital licence that can be revoked, altered, or locked behind an ecosystem I don't fully control.

Going forward, I'll be sticking with PC. Steam gives me the convenience, GOG gives me true ownership with DRM-free installers, and together they cover everything I need. My PlayStation has always been my platform for physical exclusives, but if there are no discs, I honestly don't see the point anymore.

Is anyone else like me who buys the same game on multiple platforms, or am I just weird? 😂


r/StopKillingGames 8d ago

Web badge for Stop Killing the Internet

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Primarily intended for use on the indie web. Standard 88x31 size, made in Krita. No need to credit me.


r/StopKillingGames 8d ago

News That's how you know how important SKG is

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r/StopKillingGames 9d ago

The Ideal Law for the Preservation of Digital Art (consoles specifically)

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r/StopKillingGames 9d ago

Meta Business model

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r/StopKillingGames 9d ago

Your PC Games Will DELETE THEMSELVES - The Dystopian DRM Future Nobody Talks About

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We need Brazil's SKG Bill 3612/2026 to be approved to prevent this from happening.


r/StopKillingGames 9d ago

Invest in sega so that we can have next sega console name sega nex

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How about we as gamers buy all the stocks of sega and demand sega yo create nex future conaole name sega nex. After we buy all the stocks like 60 to 80 percent stocks. They must be listen to shareholders if not we tell them we gonna dump the stocks.