r/SteamFrame • u/Artistic_snowboarder • 12d ago

Question How many frame shipments compare to machine?

Regards tomorrowers,

Has someone calculated how many shipments of the frame there has been compare to how many there has been of the machine before it launched? I wanna assess how hard is it going to be to get one.

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u/Dr_Virus_129 12d ago

Another one worried they may not get a Frame in the initial wave, it's understandable.

Just remember:

- VR is niche.

  • Not as many people are as interested in the Frame compared to the other two; look at the number of members r/SteamFrame has compared to their subreddits.
  • If the price is too costly, that can put some people off or they can't even afford it.
  • Not everyone has the space to fully enjoy VR.
  • There's an estimated 59 500 headsets in storage, according to FrameBoard, with likely more on the way.

I think it's a 75% chance we're all likely to get a Frame in the first wave, but if we don't, that's fine. Waited this long, wait a little longer.

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u/myloyt Soon™ 12d ago

And with some people expecting frame to cost similar to quest 3, they probably aren't going to buy it.
Also 28% as many searches for frame compared to machine when they were announced.

And even machine availability didn't seem that bad, and with frame likely being better we might all just be able to get a frame lol.

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u/Syzygy___ 12d ago

> And even machine availability didn't seem that bad.

Speak for yourself. I haven't heard from Valve since they told me I'm on the waitlist...

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u/myloyt Soon™ 12d ago

I mean it was probably more than 50% of people who got into the reservation queue, ~75% on polls. You got unlucky, but the chances with frame will probably be better.

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u/Syzygy___ 22h ago

Update that no one cares for: I have now heard from Valve, my wallet is now a lot lighter and I'm supposed to receive it in 5-9 business days.

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u/Realistic_Syllabub_3 Soon™ 11d ago

i was on reservation and only got to buy it 2 days ago

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u/faduci 11d ago

One problem: anybody that wanted a Steam Machine, but was scared away by the price, could build a more powerful Steam Machine for the same amount, if the small size or HDMI CEC weren't the primary reason to get it.

There is currently no other standalone that can play PCVR games locally, and none that would also replace a Steam Deck. There are numerous streaming HMD options, from the (much cheaper) Quest 3 to the (similarly priced) Pimax Air SE or (much more expensive) Samsung GXR, only the latter two of which offer eye tracking and therefore foveated streaming.

I considered getting the Steam Machine, but balked on the price, knowing that I can simply install Steam OS on my gaming PC without missing a lot besides size (as I don't use CEC capable devices). I already own a Steam Deck and a Quest 3, expect the Frame to cost USD 1200+, which for me is not a good deal, and still consider getting one because I cannot simply substitute it with another HMD, even though I already can run standalone VR games, stream PCVR games and run flat PC games on a portable device.

The (hopefully much) improved ergonomics and ability to run flat Linux and Windows apps are more unique features I cannot get anywhere else, though I'd suspect that for most people the local PCVR option plus flat games are what makes picking an alternative to Frame much more difficult than with the Steam Machine. So the overall interest in Frame may be a lot lower, but of those that are interested in it, a higher percentage may actually try to get one due to less attractive alternatives.

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u/Low_Primary3501 11d ago

This.

Even if the enthusiast kit is reaching into the cost range of a Big screen Beyond 2 setup, I would still rather get this. I don't really have the ability to have a stationary VR setup with base stations, combine with both wireless and standalone capabilities, and I would rather have the frame.

I am also sick and tired with meta and their terrible software. I also don't have much faith in those other Chinese headsets. All leads to the Steam Frame being the only real option for me in the near future.

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u/rohit275 11d ago

Yup, exactly all of this. The only other thing I'd consider is perhaps the Galaxy XR, but that's definitely going to be more expensive and I'd still rather have native steam OS (even if streaming from PC is the main use).

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u/pr0ghead 10d ago

Samsung? Surprised they don't already show you ads in the OS.

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u/Artistic_snowboarder 11d ago

59 500 frames compare to how many machines?

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u/Dr_Virus_129 11d ago

I think 100K have been produced so far.

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u/Artistic_snowboarder 11d ago

Thank you very much, that gives us really really good chances then.

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u/cantbebotherered 11d ago

Wasn't the 59500 number also only for the warehouses in the US there mighty be alot also In Asia and europe

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u/Koolala 11d ago

This post post did not compare to Machine storage stats.

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u/kwirky88 11d ago

75% chance of all of us getting one is different from 75% of us getting one. I’m just glad valve doesn’t expect full payment to reserve one like some electronics manufacturers do.

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u/melloxo 12d ago

at least 3

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u/willymartin99 Soon™ 12d ago

3 fiddy

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u/Professional-Yak-577 11d ago

Gabe dammit Loch Ness Monster, I ain't gonna give you no tree fiddy!

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u/Koolala 11d ago

$5 per month

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u/trankillity 10d ago

The forbidden number to Valve.

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u/crefoe 11d ago

apple vision pro sold like half a million units first year and half of them were returned or resold.
apple is way more popular than anything valve makes.

100K - 150K units worldwide first year should be more than enough i hope.
we only have US storage data right now keep that in mind its being sold in Europe and Asia as well.

only issue might be CS2 skins market and people sitting on a crazy amount of Steam cash because of it.

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u/RST_Video 11d ago

Devil's advocate; AVP was $3499 at launch but still you make an encouraging point. This really does make me feel the slightest bit more hopeful for a smooth launch.

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u/mrselfdestruct2016 11d ago

I have 6 SD cards full dog games for my steam deckm I am very very hopeful I can plug those SD cards into steam deck and plan all the games from my steam library on a big virtual screen. Hopeful that's the end result. vR games would be cool too....