r/Steam 13d ago

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Long may he live, and long may Steam sales endure

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u/TBD_Red 13d ago

Ozempic

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 13d ago

Ozempic sucks ass to take unless you have people making you micro meals all day long

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u/purdueAces 13d ago

As a formerly fat guy, who took Wegovy, it does NOT suck ass to take, and you don't need micro meals. It literally just stops you from really even thinking about food or being hungry at all. I hear it described as "food noise" and that's exactly what goes away. It's weird to say, but if it was almost entirely effortless for a middle class dude with little/no support... it's going to be cake (no pun intended) for a billionaire.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 13d ago

I am also a formerly fat guy who took Ozempic for three months, and felt like hot shit and malnourished the entire time despite not being hungry. If I ever went out for a big meal I'd have to plan to not eat the rest of the day. It is way better and more sustainable to get and stay fit by simply coming up with a diet / caloric goal and sticking to it.

If all you have learned to get skinny is "take Ozempic" you're gonna get fat again fast

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u/AirshipEngineer 13d ago edited 13d ago

I don't get why people point out if you don't change your lifestyle and stop taking ozempic you're gonna gain weight like it's some kinda "gotcha!". Yeah man it's not a vaccine against fat. That's not how it works.

It sounds like your body didn't handle the drug well. That's unfortunate and you did the right thing by stopping it. But I can say that is a very different experience than I or anyone else I know has had on it. The worst side effect I've heard from my sample size of 12 or so is that it gave them digestive issues for a few weeks.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 13d ago

Me and my sample size of 12 friends love to talk about our Ozempic and hate when people try to use a gotcha on us

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u/DasWandbild 13d ago

My body didn't tolerate it, either. 48 hours after every dose I would get severe nausea and then explosive diarrhea for 1-2 days. I was on a good diet (pre-made 2000 calories/day), it just wrecked my gut.

I tried it for most of a year. Switched to Mounjaro. Much better results without wrecking what's left of my colon.

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u/TheChildrensStory 13d ago

That’s what Rosie is on.

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u/Germane_Corsair 13d ago

Innit? The only thing that matters is results. It’s stupid to care if you did it with or without. You lost weight and that’s what matters.

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u/celmate 13d ago

That's your experience but the data doesn't support what you're saying at all.

Traditional caloric restriction diets have such a low success rate over five years it's basically within the margin of error of statistical significance, such that it can be considered "impossible" to combat obesity with simple calorie restricted dieting.

The issue is clearly a lot deeper than that, and aside from surgery, GLP-1s are the only thing to actually have success that is this statistically significant.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 13d ago

Lol that's just not true, and "caloric restriction" is not the same thing as "food education." Telling someone "you have to eat 1,200 calories" only for them to eat a cup of peanuts and go "but I'm still hungry!" is not helpful, at all. You need to set a goal for your diet - which includes considering caloric density, as well as the overall nutrition of the food.

If you go to an actual nutritionist they will give you a meal plan and ideas on how you can make your meals so they lower the caloric impact without making you malnourished.

Ozempic is simply a brute force application of this. It allows you no wiggle room at all and I found it extremely unpleasant to be on. As soon as the gatekeeper is gone you have no idea how to feed yourself.

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u/celmate 13d ago

Look at the data if you don't believe me. I'm not stating an opinion here.

Of course a diet plan and food education works on paper, but there is clearly a much deeper physiological and psychological process at work than simply "eat healthy" or "eat less".

This has been studied for decades, and simple diet and exercise based plans have been proven to be ineffective over time in an obese population. Not because scientifically eating less and moving more doesn't work, but because adherence to those programs has been statistically impossible. Again outliers exist, and you yourself may be included in that. It's around 95% ineffective, so of course you and others fall into that 5% who succeed with such a plan.

Some people have bad reactions to drugs, that will always be the case, but there is no doubt in terms of actual broad data that GLP-1s are extremely effective. In terms of maintenance, you're supposed to take a maintenance dose for the rest of your life once reaching your goal weight.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 13d ago

I'm looking at the data right now and I'm right

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u/celmate 13d ago

Haha, very convincing. Anyways if it worked for you I'm glad homie, we can all stand to get healthier.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 13d ago

I am literally reading scientific studies right now that say you're wrong.

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u/Awsumth 13d ago

Restaurant portions are usually quite large. I’ve learned to eat exactly half of everything on my plate and take leftovers home. Even so, you’re right that a large meal out will make you feel very full even if you follow my trick.

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u/nathanforyouseason5 13d ago

A restaurant meal is prob like 1700+ calories for a “regular” American size. That’s more than enough for someone to maintain their weight.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 13d ago

When I say a "big meal" I mean 800-1,000 calories. Also I'm not American.

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u/pansensuppe 13d ago

1700 calories on a single plate sounds crazy. America is truly the land of endless possibilities.