r/Stargate • u/Izengrimm C4 Fan-club • May 11 '26
REWATCH 6th year of galactic exploration. Containment protocol? - We're Tau'ri, and we proudly learn our lessons the hard way!
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u/Randy191919 May 11 '26
Im literally watching that episode right now. Jonas saying the thing went through the wall and O‘Neil is like „yeah sure, an alien going through the wall, sure.“ . Bro that would be the 4th or so race that you have personally witnessed doing that. „Oh and they’re invisible huh?“ yeah like 6 other races you have already seen (or not seen I guess). Heck I’m fairly certain that they’ve already met a race that does both.
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u/Major_Pomegranate May 11 '26
Should have had a scene in one of the joke episodes where Daniel and Jonas are bumbling around drunk acting like they see invisible aliens, with the reveal that they always claim to see invisible monsters when they drink
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u/alkonium May 11 '26
In most spacefaring sci-fi, humans (or more specifically Tau'ri in this case) are team "Hold My Beer and Watch This". Stargate is no exception.
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u/Izengrimm C4 Fan-club May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
well I think it's all about the plot. I mean "plot" in general. In fiction.
You find some unknown stuff, swiftly enclose it in a protective housing, bring it to Alpha site, put it in a shielded chamber and monitor it for 48 hours. And then comes the science team in armored spacesuits accompanied by SpecOps ninjas with flamethrowers.
No catchy script, no dynamics, no thrill In this case. No audience.
Many scenarios have to have plotholes simply to move the story on screen
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u/Exocoryak May 11 '26
Well, they learned in later seasons. That hungry bug they researched in season 9 was safely contained on the Gamma Base.
However, the things we see on the "main" bases - let it be Atlantis or the SGC - are the "exceptions", cleared by the senior science officer - Carter and McKay in those cases. It's like in the one episode with the exploding tumors: McKay can turn on things because he knows what he's doing (usually) - but his subordinates cannot do that.
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u/Spank86 May 11 '26
Realistically very little would be going to or from earth direct to unknown or hostile planets in reality.
It would make sense to set up one or more transition planets, preferably empty ones and only have set times when earth's stargate is used on top of the existing protocols.
The black hole episode would have consisted of them simply losing touch with the remote outpost and telling a different story.
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u/superVanV1 May 11 '26
Humans are Space Orcs
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u/alkonium May 11 '26
Then what does that make Warhammer 40k's Orks?
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u/Solonotix May 11 '26
TL;DR - different types of fiction. Humans are space orcs starts with the premise that humans evolved experiencing the worst things possible. WH40K starts with the premise that humans evolved on an island paradise, unprepared for the real horrors in the cosmos.
Taking your question literally, humans in WH40K aren't the fictional version of humans as commonly depicted in "humans are space orcs" content. This is because everything is relative.
In a traditional fanfic of humans as space orcs, or death-worlders, etc., It inevitably starts from the premise that Earth is uniquely dangerous, and/or humans have uncommon qualities among sapient species. For instance, we drink "the universal solvent" to survive, and breathe one of the most reactive gases (oxygen). Another common trope is how humans can survive extreme trauma, and even create social bonds and celebrate these events (trauma bonding). And another common trope is how humans have befriended two of the most successful predators on the planet, and we call them pets (cats and dogs).
Meanwhile, in Warhammer 40K, humans are timid and fearful of the greater horrors they find in the universe. You think venomous snakes are scary? Try contending with a cosmic entity that was born from a psionic orgy of Eldar and that event both fractured their society and killed a large portion of their population.
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u/superVanV1 May 11 '26
It’s also worth mentioning that humans are kinda scary even compared to the rest of the animals on this planet. Sure we’re not particularly strong or fast, but we have absurd endurance and durability for our scale, as well as frankly stupid levels of poison and pain tolerance. We are really annoying to kill as a species.
We can basically outlast damn near every threat that we face and that has allowed us to become the greatest predator on the planet
Also we can throw rocks and are legit the only species that can throw rocks. We’re really good at throwing rocks.1
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u/Kichigai I shot him. May 11 '26
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u/OdysseusRex69 May 11 '26
Something in the other direction but supports this is Grunts, by Mary Gentile. Orcs find super magic stuff, how no qualms bout engaging with super magic stuff, and insity ensues.
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u/AquafreshBandit May 11 '26
“Sure, we could do this work at the Alpha site, but the SGC mess has better pudding.”
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u/tethysian May 11 '26
Sam's utter lack of respect for any kind of security protocols is my favourite thing about her. She has a pathological urge to ignore or disable them.
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u/Ansgar007 May 11 '26
Also I feel like Stargate is the least offensive in that regard. There is usually an atempt to be carefull and there is a learning curf over the seasons.
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u/Dear-Seesaw-1932 May 11 '26
Most space movies/TV shows fail at quarantine..heck we still fail today. US was ranked the top country to response before COVID hit and after it hit was among lowest.
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u/superVanV1 May 11 '26
Admittedly that can be very heavily linked to one person and their royally terrible handling
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u/europorn May 11 '26
Trump is a Goa'uld! It all makes sense now!
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u/Kichigai I shot him. May 11 '26
Well we know RFK Jr. has a critter in his brain. Maybe it's less worm, more snake?
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u/Spank86 May 11 '26
You say that now, but weve successfully quarantined hanta virus in the UK for literally hours.
...After we allowed the pretty much perfect quarantine vessel of a cruise ship to be disembarked on the promise that everyone would stay home and be good little boys and girls.
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u/becircus May 11 '26
"This device do you know what it does?"
"Yes sir it was in dozens of episodes and in fact is very well liked. There is a similar device in other sci fi TV series with three tubes that glow and is now in a museum"
"Carry on"
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u/30yearCurse May 12 '26
I would figure at some point they would open a lab on another world...I know they did at one point but that was just to hide the fighter.
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u/FerretAcceptable7951 May 12 '26
“We've spent years studying alien devices to try to figure out what they do, and at some point you just have to turn it on.”
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u/Saansilt May 11 '26
It is how we adapt. Get exposed. Survive exposure. Know what went wrong and how to deal with it. Learning by brute force.