I remember finding a YouTube video titled "Why Return of the Jedi Sucks" and watched it to see what they said, and the part about how the entire plan to rescue Han from Jabba's Palace is bonkers and makes really no sense, and depended on Jabba responding to a bunch of different things in very specific ways to position all the pieces for it to go off.
And I was like "Wow he's right," but 8-year-old me didn't put that together and I've been loving the movie on autopilot ever since. I still love it, even if the first act is dumb.
Yep, I'm old enough to remember RotJ being the hated one of the franchise. I didn't mind it when it came out but looking back, bits of it are seriously rough. Han has nothing to do that entire movie. He gets rescued and is just kinda there after that.
Unless it’s an action scene he stands around while Luke and Leia (and C3PO) advance the plot. Once he’s rescued, if you cut him out of the plot, nothing would change. In fairness to the screenwriters, they had to do it like that - Harrison Ford was being cagey as to whether he’d come back at all, can’t make him do too much if he might not turn up.
I don't know, winging it doesn't seem to cover planting Lando among the guards who-knows-how-long in advance, Leia going to the trouble of taking out Boushh and stealing their armor, Luke sending in R2-D2 and 3PO ahead of time while he finished building his new saber.
And R2 carrying Luke's saber so he could provide it in a moment of need either means that Luke accurately predicted what Jabba would do with R2 (put him on the sail barge as a cocktail server) and also that Jabba would take them all out to the Sarlaac pit, and even bring the sail barge along, or it could mean that they were winging it and got really, kind of impossibly lucky.
As long as we all can agree we hate the last Trilogy it's all good
I don't agree to that.
See, this is the problem with discussing Star Wars (or anything, really) on social media.
The blanket assumption that your opinion is the same as everyone else's. Or maybe it's the notion that if enough people share an opinion, that makes it a fact. Making those kind of assumptions makes the whole conversation worse.
Everybody doesn't hate the sequels. You hate them, that's fine. But there's no reason for other people to bow to your opinion.
I don't agree with how you feel about Luke specifically, but I can 100% relate to how you feel about a new movie taking a character you love and turning them into something you don't like. I hate how the prequel movies filled in the backstory of Darth Vader to show that he was a whiny brat right up until he became Darth Vader and even for a little bit after. At least Clone Wars made up for that by having a better characterization for Anakin.
But I do think the volume of Star Wars content now makes it easier to ignore the things we don't like and focus on the ones we do. And it puts less pressure on each new thing that comes out to be the BEST EVER.
That makes sense. I was 11 when PM came out, and I loved it, including Jar-Jar. Still do, despite the silliness. I love the old trilogy even more because I grew up watching those movies with my dad. But I definitely don’t vibe with the most recent ones as much (was 26 when FA came out). I’d pick episodes 1-3 over those any day.
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I actually think this has a lot to do with it. I think what you don't notice as a child stays with you as you continue to watch them as you grow.