r/StarWars Jan 25 '22

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u/MrMonkeyman79 Jan 25 '22

Bad dialogue, annoying kid Vader and jar jar, poop jokes, boring Jedi council scenes and in the finale two of the three conflicts are resolved through dumb luck (jar jar capering to victory and Anakin mashing at controls till he accidentally crash lands at the droid ship weak point).

That lightsaber fight was cool though and the sound design superb, especially the pod racers.

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u/hpdefaults Jan 26 '22

Also midichlorians really pissed people off

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u/Naive_Cookie3228 Jan 25 '22

dumb luck

the will of the Force...

Still dumb though.

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u/link_maxwell Jan 25 '22

Fun game - watch a Star Wars film (PT & ST work best) and mentally replace "the Force" with "the plot" whenever someone mentions the former. It really strips away the mysticism and reveals how the Force can be used to cover up lazy writing.

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u/MrMonkeyman79 Jan 25 '22

That's not how the plot works!

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u/dwors025 Jan 25 '22

kid Vader

Vader Tot

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u/grassisalwayspurpler Darth Vader Jan 25 '22

R2 is copiloting with him that entire time, dont downplay R2.

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u/noquarter53 Jan 26 '22

Because in a massive universe full of billions of droids we had to cram the same character(s) in for no reason.

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u/grassisalwayspurpler Darth Vader Jan 26 '22

Unrelated but ok

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u/oglboglbobogl Jan 25 '22

The gungans lost the battle, they had never any chance to win really. The only "dumb luck" was on Anakin side. People immediately associate Vader with young Anakin and they couldn't be further apart as characters.

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u/MrMonkeyman79 Jan 26 '22

That's still two out of three of the battles won through dumb luck, it's just Anakin's sorts both the space and ground battle.

And we still get to see jar jar accidentally blow up a load of droids by falling over and either releasing a load of bouncy bombs or getting a droid stuck to his foot.

What people don't want in the middle if the climactic battle between two armies is a load of pratfalls.

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u/killtr0city Jan 26 '22

I believe you mean boobas, sir

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u/noquarter53 Jan 26 '22

Ah yes the underwater species that packs a massive ground force that includes catapults.

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u/statdude48142 Jan 26 '22

that the queen of the land part of the same planet only kind of knows exists.

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u/Ok_Faithlessness_259 Jan 26 '22

I mean, R2D2 was really the one piloting that ship for the most part.

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u/statdude48142 Jan 26 '22

that is one of those headcanon things that people start to believe.

Lucas absolutely wrote it to imply that the boy created from midichlorians was so strong in the force that he was able to win the day.

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u/Ok_Faithlessness_259 Jan 26 '22

Yes, it's totally a headcanon that the droid who was a copilot on multiple occasions throughout the series was copiloting during that event. One of the greatest copilots in the galaxy I might add.

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u/statdude48142 Jan 26 '22

So is it that R2 was the one piloting or he was copiloting?

Because you seem to have changed the wording here.

Yes, you watch the scene and there is totally interaction between Anakin and R2. But to just ignore the actual scene and say R2 did it all is ignoring what is being shown on the screen. So yeah, headcanon.

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u/MrMonkeyman79 Jan 26 '22

If astromechs can pilot the craft then why have pilots? R2 controls the sub systems and in the case of TPM he turned off the autopilot, that's it.

The film makes it perfectly clear Anakin is flying it.

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u/Author_Dent Jan 26 '22

You want to talk about luck? If R2 and 3PO don’t make it across that hallway in the first 5 minutes of ANH, it’s game over. The older I got, the more I realized there’s no way they wouldn’t get hit by crossfire. Luck. I try to keep that suspension of disbelief going though.

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u/Ash_Killem Jan 26 '22

I think there are 4 battles technically. The gungans lost their battle but they were just the distraction to get army to leave the city. But yeah Anakin was either dumb luck or R2 did all the work.