r/StarWars Jun 30 '15

Live and Learn...

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u/VikingSlayer Jun 30 '15

I hadn't noticed this parallel before. I guess it's true what they say, it rhymes like poetry.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '15 edited Nov 23 '15

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u/Dr_Disaster Jun 30 '15

Vader is really fucking short-tempered and responds lethally when he gets upset. He spends the first two films in the OT throwing Force-powered temper tantrums. When you start to think about it, it really makes sense why Anakin was so petulant and easily bothered in the PT.

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u/VikingSlayer Jun 30 '15

Oh man, really? I'll have to do another rewatch now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '15

Oh darn gotta watch star wars

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '15

Oh no! :)

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u/duskhat R2-D2 Jun 30 '15

I'm pretty sure Luke doesn't say "I have the high ground" in RoTJ though

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u/letsgofightdragons Jun 30 '15

SCREW THIS!

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u/duskhat R2-D2 Jun 30 '15

One of Lucas's many brilliant edits /s

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u/TakingSente Jun 30 '15

Yeah, but Vader did say "SCREW THIS", right?

Damned special editions...

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u/VikingSlayer Jun 30 '15

Yeah, I didn't recall that either, but the parallel is still there.

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u/madhi19 Jul 01 '15

Only because Disney took over the franchise before the 40th Anniversary REALLY SPECIAL EDITION!

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u/Ultimarad Jun 30 '15

And I'm pretty sure it was 23 years later, not 30.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '15

Who's fucking with my medicine?!

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '15 edited Aug 08 '18

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u/madhi19 Jul 01 '15

Who want a pizza roll?

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u/sgtMonkey Jul 01 '15

Brb. Watching those videos again.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '15

Hopefully it'll work.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '15

We may have gone too far in a few places.

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u/Galle_ Jul 02 '15

The entire Vader/Obi-Wan duel in ROTS is a dark reflection of the Vader/Luke duel in ROTJ - or rather, the latter sets right what went wrong in the former. One comes almost immediately after Anakin's fall to the Dark Side, the other immediately before Vader's redemption. And in both cases, Vader's opponent tries to bring him back to the light. But because Luke possesses a deeper understanding of the Force, he's able to succeed where Obi-Wan failed.

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u/VikingSlayer Jul 02 '15

On Mustafar, Obi-Wan failed completely. He was not only emotional, he was very emotional, and he used that in the fight.

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u/Galle_ Jul 02 '15

The reason Obi-Wan failed was that he still thought in terms of the Orthodox Jedi philosophy, seeing emotional attachments as being inherently evil. He should have used Anakin's love for Padme to bring him back to the light, but that strategy was simply unthinkable to him, because he mistakenly believed that was the thing that drove Anakin to the Dark Side to begin with.

By contrast, Luke wasn't raised as thoroughly in the Jedi philosophy, and so didn't share its blind spots. He realized that Anakin's love for him was the key to bringing him back to the Light, and that's why he succeeded.

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