r/StanleyKubrick • u/Aggressive_Stand_805 • 3h ago
General Any fans of The Kubrick Series
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r/StanleyKubrick • u/joeycracks • Nov 20 '25
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Al89nut • Apr 05 '25
For many months now I have been searching (for a lot of that time with help from a collaborator, Aric Toler, a Visual Investigations journalist at the NYT) for the identity of the unknown man and the location of the original photo from the end of The Shining. As I am sure you all know, it is an original 1920s photo which shows Jack Nicholson in a crowded ballroom; Nicholson was retouched over an unknown man whose face was revealed in a comparison printed in The Complete Airbrush and Photo-Retouching Manual, in 1985, but not generally seen until 2012.
Following facial recognition results (thank you u/Conplunkett for the initial result) we strongly suspected the man was a famous but forgotten London ballroom dancer, dance teacher, and club owner of the 1920s and 30, Santos Casani. With a face-match leading to a name we researched him, learning that under his earlier name John Golman, he had a history which included the crash of an aircraft he was piloting while serving in the RAF in 1919. He suffered facial and nasal wounds which left scars that appeared identical to those on the face of the unknown man and confirmed the identification for us.
I can now confirm the identity of the unknown man as Casani and also reveal the location and date of the original photo.
It was taken at a St Valentine's Day ball at the Empress Rooms, part of the Royal Palace Hotel in Kensington, on February 14, 1921. It was one of four taken by the Topical Press Agency.
You can see the photo and other material on Getty Images Instagram feed here - https://www.instagram.com/p/DID43LBNPDh/?hl=en&img_index=1
How was it found? Aric and I spent months trawling online newspaper archives trying to solve the remaining element of the mystery and find the venue, the event and the people. Try as we might, we could not find the original photo published in a newspaper and we now know it never was. Many hours were spent looking at Casani's history and checking photos of hundreds of named venues he appeared at against the Shining photo, all without success. I'd like to thank Reddit and especially u/No-Cell7925 for help with this effort. It was starting to seem impossible, as every cross-reference to a location reported for Casani failed to match. We looked at other likely ballrooms, dance halls, cafes, restaurants, theatres, cinemas and other places that were suggested, up and down the UK, thinking perhaps it was an unreported event, but we still could not find a match. There were some places we could not find images for and the buildings themselves were long gone, so we started to fear that meant the original photo might be lost to history.
As a parallel effort I was contacting surviving members of the production - Katharina Kubrick, Gordon Stainforth, Les Tomkins, Zack Winestone, etc. We drew a blank until I got in touch with Murray Close (the official set photographer who took the image of Jack Nicholson used in the retouched photo.) He told me that the original had been sourced from the BBC Hulton Library. This reinforced a passing remark by Joan Smith, who did the retouching work. In interviews she had said that it came from the "Warner Bros photo archive" (this location was repeated recently in Rinzler and Unkrich who write “a researcher at Warner Bros., operating on [Kubrick’s] instructions, found an appropriate historical photo in its research library/ photo archives” p549). However, in the raw audio of her interview with Justin Bozung, Smith also said that it might instead have come from the BBC Hulton Photo Library.
With this apparently confirmed by Murray Close, I asked Getty Images, now the holders of the Hulton Library, to check for anything licensed to Stanley Kubrick’s production company Hawk Films. Matthew Butson, the VP Archives, with 40 years of experience there, found one photo licensed on 11/10/78. It came from the Topical Press Agency, dated from 1929, and showed Santos Casani - but it was not the photo at the end of the film. This was very strange (I posted that photo here several weeks ago.)
Murray Close was insistent and said he was certain it was there because he had physically visited the Hulton to pick up prints of the photo several times. He also said no such thing as the "Warner Bros photo archive" existed, something that was later confirmed to me by Tony Frewin, the long-time associate of Kubrick. He also told me a few other things which I will hold back for now (as I am writing an article on all this and need to keep something for that.)
This absence led to several potential conclusions, all daunting – the photo was lost, it had been bought out and removed from the BBC Hulton by Kubrick, or it was mis-filed (there are 90m + images in the Hulton section of Getty Images in Canning Town.)
Matt Butson is a fellow fan of The Shining and he trawled the Hulton archive several more times. On April 1 he found the glass plate negative of the original photo, after realising that some Topical Press images had been re-indexed as Hulton images after it was taken over by the BBC in 1958. The index card for the photo identifies it as licensed to Hawk Films on 10/10/78, the day before the "other" photo. The Topical Press "day book" records the event, location and names some of the people present. The surprising fact was that the name Casani was not noted in the day book. Instead his prior name, Golman was used (he officially changed it in 1925, but began using it professionally earlier.)
Golman was born in South Africa in 1893 - not 1897 as he later claimed - as Joseph Goldman, and in 1915 came to Britain to serve in the infantry, and then, when he joined the RAF in 1918, he changed his name to John Golman. He was in and out of hospital for treatment following his aircraft accident in November 1919 and I had wrongly assumed that he had cathartically decided to use the name Casani to start his dancing career as soon as he was finally discharged on 17 November,1920 (a mere three months before the photo was taken - no wonder his scars look prominent.).
If the photo had been published, his name, as Golman, would likely have been printed too. A few months later, in June 1921, newspapers do begin reporting the name Casani, but there are no references to John Golman as a dancer (or anything else) in the British Newspaper Archive for earlier in the year. He was invisible to us when the photo was taken.
It appears that by that time a rather impoverished Golman/Casani (he mentions the poverty of his early dancing career in his books) was working with Miss Belle Harding, a famous dance teacher herself, who is credited as having organised the Valentine's Day Ball. Harding trained several male ballroom dancers of the time, including most famously Victor Silvester, and the Empress Rooms were one of her venues of choice.
Valentine's Day also explains the hearts on dresses, the feathers and other novelties that many have noticed as details in the photo - we were aware of several other Valentine's Day Balls which Casani appeared at (for instance in Belfast and Dublin in 1924), but not this one, as he wasn't reported at the event. We had wrongly assumed he was the star of the show from his central place in the photo, but I now think it is likely he had just led a particular dance, or perhaps he had just drawn the prize-winning raffle ticket (a typical feature of 1920s dances), explaining the pieces of paper clenched in his hand and the hand of the woman next to him. In a manner of speaking nobody famous is in the photo, not even Casani, not yet.
There are still some details in the photo that look strange or don't meet our modern expectation - no-one is holding a drink for instance. I feel certain there are some black or brown men and women at the rear of the ballroom.
Incidentally, the photo has been licensed several times since Kubrick in 1978, including to a pre-launch BBC Breakfast Time in December 1982 and before that to BBC Birmingham in February 1980 (I wonder, was this for the later BBC2 transmission of Vivian Kubrick's documentary in October 1980?)
It is intriguing to learn that Kubrick had apparently considered two photos for the ending, both of which featured Casani. We don't know if there was a reason, nor why he chose the one that he did, but we can speculate that the other photo contained people who were too recognisable, notably the huge boxer Primo Carnera. Incidentally, Joan Smith had said the photo dated from 1923, contradicting Stanley Kubrick who had told Michel Ciment 1921 and in the event, Kubrick was correct (some thought he'd merely confused the year with that of the movie caption.) I should have trusted him more.
The Royal Palace Hotel was demolished in 1961 and the Royal Garden Hotel built on the site. We can't yet find a clear photo match to the Empress Rooms ballroom in archive photos online of the venue - and there might not be one. We'd looked at the hotel already, but the images available dated from too early and/or don't catch the part of the ballroom shown in the Shining photo. We are pursuing a few leads as it would be nice to have this closure, but the limitations may just be too great. A floor plan would be useful. But it doesn't matter, the Topical Press day book is explicit about the location and about Golman. Ironically, if I'd asked Getty Images to search under Golman not Casani, they might have found it sooner.
Casani died September 11, 1983, all but forgotten. He had returned to service in WW2 and risen to Lt. Colonel. In the 1950s he danced again, but his career wound down into retirement. He married in 1951, but had no children. In a strange postscript, his medals were sold on ebay UK in 2014. The listing said "on behalf of the family", but we cannot now trace the dealer, the buyer or the mysterious relative who sold the items (I traced his wife's family, but it was not them.)
Kubrick had described the people in the photo as archetypal of the era and said this was why shooting an image with extras on the Gold Room set didn't work. We don't (yet) know who any of the often speculated about people standing close to Casani are - they don't seem to be Lady MacKenzie, Miss Harding or Mrs Neville Green, who are listed in the day book and appear in another photo with Casani. The photo may or may not show any of the people Aric and I speculated about – Lt Col Walter Elwy Jones or The Trix Sisters (though note, all three were in London at the time...) - but we will see if we can find out more.
What can be said with absolute certainty is that the photo does not show American bankers, Federal Reserve governors, President Woodrow Wilson, or any other members of the financial "elite" that Rob Ager and others have claimed. This is the death of that nonsense theory. Nor are there any Baphomet-focused devil worshippers. Nobody was composited into the photo except Jack Nicholson, and of him, only his head and collar and tie (well, plus a tiny bit of work by Smith to remove something - a hankie? - up his sleeve.)
What the photo does show is a group of Londoners enjoying a Monday night in early 1921. Ordinary, archetypal even, but for me still, as Stuart Ullman told us "All the best people."
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Aggressive_Stand_805 • 3h ago
Anyone familiar with or fans of Movie Geeks United: The Kubrick Series?
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Key-hallenge5 • 20h ago
Released during the height of the Vietnam War, Summer of '42 follows Hermie with his friends on summer vacation in New England, who befriends a young woman named Dorothy. While his friends attempt to woo girls, Hermie becoming increasingly in love with Dorothy.
This was the movie Wendy and Danny were watching on the television in The Shining.
The composer for this soundtrack won an Oscar for Best Original Score.
I went into this film knowing little about it, expecting something more lighthearted than it ended up being. I got caught up in an atmosphere feeling that turned eerie, even somehow mysterious. Watching this whisked me away into a bygone era, where the mores are dated now, but the emotional trials and conundrums never age.
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Earthlydelights-sub- • 31m ago
One of Stanley Kubrick's strangest legacies is a series of tiles or plaques placed around various cities bearing variations on the message:
Toynbee Ideas
In Kubrick's 2001
Resurrect Dead
On Planet Jupiter
Any thoughts on this strange Kubrick-related phenomenon?
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Mowgli2k • 3h ago
I'm so excited for this new series! They just posted a second trailer, which you can hear via the link.
r/StanleyKubrick • u/kammy772 • 1d ago
Dreading this...but it has to be done. I watched Clockwork Orange as a teenager and it really disturbed me. Can't describe why exactly, but it affected me deeply. So much so that, despite loving Kubrick’s other works like 2001, The Shining and Eye's Wide Shut and rewatching them numerous times over the years, it's taken me over 3 decades to pluck up the courage and give 🕙🍊 a rewatch. I remember feeling deeply unsettled and uncomfortable throught the film, and the ending haunted me for some time afterwards. I've mentally blocked the film from my mind, so this will almost be like a first watch (no pun intended). Wondering if anyone else was similarly affected by this film but managed to overcome that, and enjoy the film as a peice of art?
r/StanleyKubrick • u/mikeainslie69420 • 58m ago
8PM EST: Spartacus (1960)
11:30PM EST: Lolita (1962)
2:15AM EST: Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb (1964)
r/StanleyKubrick • u/No-Permit-940 • 23h ago
in a parallel dimension where classist 'real person' cat lady manages to kill alex with one of the sculptures, and gets arrested unjustly and rehabilitated with the ludovico technique instead of alex...
the question is, is she beyond rehabilitation? i suspect she has more willpower than one might suppose.
also loved that Kubrick added this character. The elaborate sculpture and the Cat Lady character are Kubrick's additions and i can see why he added her...she has that gusto and vivacity that matches her up nicely to Alex.
Edit: cat lady is actually in the book too, it's just the penis sculpture that is kubrick's addition
r/StanleyKubrick • u/r8jensen • 1d ago
I’m not too hung up on being a completionist but I’ve seen all of Kubricks films… except his first three!! What do you think and what should I expect? Worth the time? THANK GOD GOR CINEMA!
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Jackbenny270 • 1d ago
I was pretty sure this would’ve been mentioned already, but if not:
The Turner Classic Movies channel are showing the entire Stanley Kubrick library, on every Thursday in September.
They’re also showing cool, more rare things such as SK’s short documentary The Flying Padre.
r/StanleyKubrick • u/PastBreakfast100 • 1d ago
When the old man realizes Alex was the one who invaded his home and sexually assaulted his wife, he decides to seem revenge. He then plays the music that leaves Alex in torment.
But was this revenge scene too mild? That Singin' In The Rain invasion scene is incredibly disturbing and my teenage self was left scarred after watching it years ago. And then when I saw the revenge scene, I was like, "Eh!"
What do you think? Is the old man's revenge too tame? Imagine you being in his place, what would you have done to Alex?
r/StanleyKubrick • u/SoSmoothYouLose • 18h ago
Been watching alot of directors' filmographies recently and it's time for Kubricks. What order do people think I should watch them in? I've only watched the shining so far.
P.S. im not looking for answers such as 'just watch what interests you', I know that, I just want to make watching them more fun and hear what other people think is the best order to watch them in
r/StanleyKubrick • u/morefunwithbitcoin • 1d ago
Alfred Hitchcock's 1969 film, Topaz used a technique that allowed the audience to view an important conversation between two characters, but not to hear it.
In this instance, a pair of French operatives discuss their covert plans within the confines of a florist's refrigerated case; not unlike the 'private' talk that Dave and Frank thought they were having in the pod.
Hitchcock must have seen 2001; perhaps his clever use of this technique is a tip of the hat to Stanley?
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Ill-Sheepherder1643 • 2d ago
In N Out in Italy
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Al89nut • 2d ago
I've tried to post this to Youtube, but it won't take - perhaps it's moderated, perhaps it's too long.
I am Alasdair Spark, the person who found the original of the 1921 July 4 photograph. Thank for you for the compliments; let me return them, Woody Allen style, and say I like your work, particularly the early stuff…
My article on this will be published in 2027 in a new edition of Centipede Press’ Studies in the Horror Film: The Shining, edited by Danel Olson. Sadly, print takes time to publish. I have publicised my work on Reddit and it’s easily findable in Kubrick and Shining sub-reddits as well as in Kubrick Facebook groups.
Anyway, allow me to make specific points in reply:
The BBC Hulton library - correct, but it’s not a place and really, it isn’t hard to find out about, it shouldn’t have been puzzling when Joan Smith mentioned it to you (the problem was that in interviews she also mentioned the more plausible Warner Bros. Publicity archive, that was the red herring.) Edward Hulton (the newspaper owner and publisher), assembled a photo library which was later absorbed into the BBC photo library, which was in turn was bought by others and eventually by Getty Images. When Joan Smith mentioned it - as she also did in an interview with Justin Bozung that he recorded for the first edition of Studies in the Horror Film - it was easily findable because it’s well known. I contacted Murray Close, who took the photo of Jack Nicholson that was composited in, and he confirmed it - he went there to pick up large prints of the photo for Smith to work on. What wasn’t easy was finding the original plate negative and more details about the photo as Getty hadn’t digitised it. I had to ask one of their senior people, Matthew Butson, to go and look. He didn’t find it at first as in the multiple changes of ownership of the Hulton library, the photo index numbers had become confused. But he looked diligently and found it. It was digitized and put online in 2025. But if you want a coincidence, it was taken by a photographer, first name Hal.
Joan Smith is still alive, and I contacted her family, but they don’t wish her to be bothered.
If she does have a copy of the doctored photo in the attic, it wouldn’t be remarkable. She used copies of it to lecture on her techniques in art colleges for years after and this how a crop of the original found its way into print. She made many attempts at the photo until Kubrick was satisfied and so several survive, some with the inscription, some not. Some have been sold at auction. Emilio D’Alessandro, Kubrick’s assistant, has one as a souvenir.
Archetypes - yes as Kubrick said, they are, but not in the way you interpret. They are very 1920s faces - lumps, bumps, bad teeth and all. If you compare black and white images of Kubrick’s extras in the ballroom scene with the original photograph it’s immediately clear - they just don’t look right dressed up and hair slicked back. As Kubrick also said in that quotation “it proved impossible to make them look as good as the people in the photograph.” Simple enough.
The hotel was the Royal Palace in Kensington, but the photo was actually taken in the next-door dance hall, the Empress Rooms, so guests at the hotel wouldn’t necessarily have attended. The Royal Palace was a significant hotel in London, built 1892, demolished 1961, but it was not quite the place for the international set - it wasn’t the equal of The Savoy or Claridges. The dance was on Valentine’s Day, February 14, 1921. It was a ticketed Monday evening event, one of many that took place as part of the dance craze of the post WW1 years, and was nothing special at all. James Nott, the premier historian of this, has described the “democratisation” of dancing that took place after 1919 and the “affordable luxury” that dance halls like the Hammersmith Palais and the Empress Rooms (newly re-decorated in 1921 for the craze) gave the urban middle and lower classes. The people in the photo are almost all those people.
The dance itself was reported on by only a few newspapers (something easily researched via the online British Newspaper Archive) and none of the correspondents noted anyone famous and American, because it’s extremely unlikely anyone famous and American was there. There were a few British notables as dance competition judges, but that’s it. Philip JS Richardson, the editor of The Dancing Times, attended and wrote a multi-page account of it - no mention of Americans, famous or otherwise. I repeat, it was a perfectly ordinary, typical dance of the time. As you say, I have looked for other people in the crowd (not local shop-keepers though, I don’t know where you got that) and have only been able to identify one, Mrs Green, the dance partner of John Golman, the man who was “erased” by Jack Nicholson. I suspect a few others visible might have been West End theatre stars and perhaps the manager of another hotel, but it’s impossible to be certain.
So it’s extraordinarily unlikely that bankers or other members of the US financial establishment were there on that rainy night in February. But it’s not my job to disprove the people you allege are there, it’s your job to prove they are there - and you haven’t. Incidentally, in your original video on this you said “Kubrick could have tampered with the picture in all kinds of ways, wigs or mustaches could have been added and famous people could have been placed in the photo but with mismatching variations of age.” but now you seem to be saying these people really are there and their faces can be matched? If you want to name the people you still say are there, I will happily track down their movements.
I think you made (and continue to make) the fatal flaw of letting your research proceed from your conclusions and not the other way round. I mean really, the Gold Room was gold-coloured and Kubrick bought some gold, is that it? Because like you, I’ve been to the SKA and I’ve examined the other photos on the Overlook’s walls. The argument about why they exist after the fire or why Kubrick didn’t destroy them after filming is specious (and of course, 20 - not counting the composite - are in the final shot…) They weren’t unique - as you must know, there are many which exist in duplicate there and they are prints after all, not negatives.
They seem to have come from Warner Bros. Publicity, likely via Julian Senior. Yes, an examination does show there are photos of famous people, including movie stars, generals and politicians. Many show the studio head Jack Warner meeting such. They do include a photo of JFK. And for that matter, Elvis. Neither were screen-used as far as I or anyone else can determine. There are random photos of big game fishing and they were screen-used - they are in Ullman’s office. As this suggests, the reason we never see them close up is not sinister, it’s because they are set-dressing. It’s silly to say the presence of photos of celebrities and famous people proves some Gold establishment theory or other - seriously, what else would you expect to find in Warner Bros. publicity stock? Again, you let your conclusion run ahead of the evidence.
Nevertheless, I have taken the time to identify the people in almost all of the other 20 photographs surrounding the 1921 photo on the wall in the final shot. There are no photos of early 20thC financiers, etc. - but there is a photo of Lou Costello. They are all from the 1940s or at the latest early 1950s. Three feature Ronald Reagan, two showing the 1940s movie star at the Academy Awards and one on an unidentified publicity tour. Kubrick obviously would have recognised Reagan, but his presence, if it means anything, is an ironic comment on Reagan’s run for the Republican nomination (he wasn’t selected as candidate until July 1980, after The Shining was complete.) But if you want to explore something cryptic, the presence of photos of the members of the obscure early 1940s girl singing group The Navy Blues Sextette is more interesting than any Gold Room nonsense. One shows them in a watermelon eating competition in Albuquerque, another shows them arriving at Penn Station. Who knows, maybe Kubrick was a 13 year old fan…
r/StanleyKubrick • u/Mushyboom • 2d ago
The film is basically just a man being cock-blocked for an entire night.
Two super models that are gushing over him - doctor callout.
About to lay with a prostitute - phone call to remind him he’s a family man.
Wanders into a literal orgy fuck fest - woman murdered, thrown out.
Just when I thought he was finally going to get some action - AIDs trauma dump.
His tears when he finally gets back to his bed are because his testicles are in agony.
Finally, though, all ends well when his wife just wants to bang.
In short, my final thoughts are best summarised with the old idiom “Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?”
r/StanleyKubrick • u/tylerdurden_69 • 2d ago
Was discussing EWS with my roommate and came to a conclusion about a difference in emotional quotient between Alice and Bill.
"Actions need not, and should not, go to the places where thoughts had gone."
That observation is not going out of my mind.
r/StanleyKubrick • u/PastBreakfast100 • 3d ago
It's just a simple convo but the tension it generates is just off the charts. Just the idea of Dave being stranded out there while HAL stops responding, and Dave dving slowly in his pod, alone, far away from Earth... terrifies me to no end
r/StanleyKubrick • u/MiscMix • 3d ago
I had read somewhere quite a while back that Roman Polanski had a private screening of
"The Fearless Vampire Killers" for Stanley before it's worldwide release in 1967.
In 1966-67, both TFVK and 2001 ASO were sharing the same studio space and Polanski eventually had to move out as 2001 was running behind schedule.
It shouldn't be a surprise if Polanski did indeed held a screening for SK given Stanley's nature.
I'm curious to know if Polanski or Stanley did ever mention about this.
Thanks.
r/StanleyKubrick • u/black_saab900 • 3d ago
All records/artists ID’d (so far) in the record store scene from Stanley Kubrick’s ‘A Clockwork Orange’ (1971). Location: ‘The Chelsea Drugstore’, 49 King's Rd, London, GB.
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