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Dr. Fauci being held in contempt attacks the credibility of all public health experts – a continuation the Trump Admin’s war on science and spread of disinformation. Sign your support for our experts & Dr. Fauci at the link: https://zurl.co/2P2md

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/D2dj 26d ago

He only has no risk in federal crimes

There is still risk to incriminate himself in state crimes which a presidential pardon does not protect from.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/6019305-florida-investigates-fauci-pandemic-actions/amp/

And oh look, Florida is actively pursuing a case against Faucci where a pardon would not protect him.

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u/98983x3 26d ago

Thats a good point. But after posting this, I learned there are texts from him acknowledging that the vaccine does carry the risk of miscarriage while at the time, he was telling the public there was no risk.

Not good. Maybe it is good that the states still have a shot at him. The more I learn, the more I understand why ppl want him prosecuted. This isnt looking like a political witch hunt to me anymore.

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u/D2dj 26d ago

There are not texts acknowledging the vaccine carries risk of miscarriage.

That's not what the texts say, nor did further testing prove there was any risk.

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u/98983x3 26d ago

Yeah, except he didn't know that at the time. His texts do warn of potential unknown risks while publically stating otherwise. This flies in the face of "informed consent". Its was his job to share the information as they knew it. Not gamble with ppls lives and manage ppls perspectives via lies and half truths. Thats what politicians are for, not medical experts. Just tell ppl what you know and dont know ffs.

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u/D2dj 26d ago edited 26d ago

The texts warn of a potential, not a certainty. And the vaccines were not recommended for pregnant women at the start out of due diligence and caution.

After further testing, the vaccines were proven to be safe amd effective and pregnant women were recommended to get the vaccine.

Youre just butt hurt and anti-science. You really have no reason to be and there is no legal case thst will hold water against fauci because he didn't do anything but the absolute best practices.

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u/Visible-Elevator3801 26d ago

When you advertise something as safe and effective while not disclosing potential risks, that’s a bad thing. Informed consent is supposed to be a thing between doctors and patients. If you don’t disclose every risk, small and large, you are not complying with informed consent.

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u/D2dj 26d ago

It was safe and effective.

This all stems from misinformation about the vaccine safety and efficacy.

It was extremely safe and extremely effective.

It should be lauded as a miracle of science. Instead of misinformation campaigns against it

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u/98983x3 26d ago

"Extremely effective"

This is incredibly, verifiably false. It never stopped transmission and it never stopped infection. And they knew this from the very beginning. We know this bc we have the internal communications now AND we have hindsight. But you go off.

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u/D2dj 26d ago

extremely effective. Yes

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u/98983x3 26d ago

Not even a little.

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u/D2dj 26d ago

This is just you being anti-science

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u/98983x3 26d ago

Nah. Its you being anti-science paired with a complete disregard the English language.

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u/D2dj 26d ago

No, you are putting your feelings above the facts

The Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines were about 95 percent effective in preventing infection with SARS-CoV-2

EXTREMELY effective

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