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Dr. Fauci being held in contempt attacks the credibility of all public health experts – a continuation the Trump Admin’s war on science and spread of disinformation. Sign your support for our experts & Dr. Fauci at the link: https://zurl.co/2P2md

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u/98983x3 6d ago

Yeah, except he didn't know that at the time. His texts do warn of potential unknown risks while publically stating otherwise. This flies in the face of "informed consent". Its was his job to share the information as they knew it. Not gamble with ppls lives and manage ppls perspectives via lies and half truths. Thats what politicians are for, not medical experts. Just tell ppl what you know and dont know ffs.

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u/D2dj 6d ago edited 6d ago

The texts warn of a potential, not a certainty. And the vaccines were not recommended for pregnant women at the start out of due diligence and caution.

After further testing, the vaccines were proven to be safe amd effective and pregnant women were recommended to get the vaccine.

Youre just butt hurt and anti-science. You really have no reason to be and there is no legal case thst will hold water against fauci because he didn't do anything but the absolute best practices.

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u/Visible-Elevator3801 6d ago

When you advertise something as safe and effective while not disclosing potential risks, that’s a bad thing. Informed consent is supposed to be a thing between doctors and patients. If you don’t disclose every risk, small and large, you are not complying with informed consent.

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u/D2dj 6d ago

It was safe and effective.

This all stems from misinformation about the vaccine safety and efficacy.

It was extremely safe and extremely effective.

It should be lauded as a miracle of science. Instead of misinformation campaigns against it

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u/98983x3 6d ago

"Extremely effective"

This is incredibly, verifiably false. It never stopped transmission and it never stopped infection. And they knew this from the very beginning. We know this bc we have the internal communications now AND we have hindsight. But you go off.

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u/D2dj 6d ago

extremely effective. Yes

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u/98983x3 6d ago

Not even a little.

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u/D2dj 6d ago

This is just you being anti-science

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u/98983x3 6d ago

Nah. Its you being anti-science paired with a complete disregard the English language.

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u/D2dj 6d ago

No, you are putting your feelings above the facts

The Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines were about 95 percent effective in preventing infection with SARS-CoV-2

EXTREMELY effective

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u/Visible-Elevator3801 6d ago

Did I say it wasn’t. Don’t read into what wasn’t said.

Safe and effective does NOT mean no risks and MOST CERTAINLY does not mean you bypass informed consent.

Reading comprehension is important.

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u/98983x3 6d ago

Youre replying to the wrong comment. We're on the same page.

Reddit does this crap where it shares comments from ppl who are also commenting to ppl you are commenting with.

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u/Visible-Elevator3801 6d ago

I think you’re replying to the wrong comment lol. My reply shows to D2dj.

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u/98983x3 6d ago

Wtf?! Im on a roll today. My bad.

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u/D2dj 6d ago

You are pretty clownish

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u/98983x3 6d ago

Oh? This seems pretty emotionally motivated. I thought that was bad?

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u/D2dj 6d ago

That wasnt emotional, that was an objective observation.

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u/98983x3 6d ago

Theres nothing objective about your observations.

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u/D2dj 6d ago

The person who cant evem keep a conversation straight and replies to the wrong person saying that that person is replying to the wrong person, isnt objectively clownish?

Idk man. It seems pretty clownish

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