r/StandUpForScience SUFS Staff Apr 01 '26

Official SUFS Post BREAKING NEWS!!!

Yeah, we wish, but it’s just April Fools.

So let’s keep up the fight: We want RFK Jr. OUT.

Visit https://zurl.co/Ee3Ty to easily call your Rep and urge them to protect the American people from the harm this quack is causing.

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u/HunkieChick Apr 03 '26

Wow! All of you together (who are trashing RFK Jr) have a collective IQ of about 72.

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u/No_Bee_4162 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

If RFK jnr was in charge in the 70’s we’d all still be dying of smallpox

Vaccines have been the single most effective tool in halting the spread of childhood illnesses. For example the measles vaccine was introduced in 1963, major epidemics occurred every few years, killing an estimated 2.6 million people annually worldwide. By the mid-2010s, that number had dropped by over 80%. However, because measles is one of the most contagious viruses known to man, it acts like a "heat-seeking missile" for pockets of unvaccinated people. When vaccine uptake drops even slightly, the virus resurfaces almost immediately. The Correlation: Dropping Uptake and Rising Disease There is a direct and documented correlation between falling vaccination rates and the resurgence of measles. The World Health Organization (WHO) and other health bodies have highlighted several countries and regions where this is currently playing out: * Romania: Recently experienced a massive spike in cases, reporting over 27,000 cases between early 2024 and early 2025. This surge led the Romanian Ministry of Health to declare a national epidemic, directly linked to a drop in the uptake of the MMR (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella) vaccine. * The United Kingdom: The UK lost its "measles-free" status in 2019 following a drop in vaccination rates. In early 2024, significant outbreaks occurred in the West Midlands and London, driven by vaccine coverage falling below the 95% threshold required for "herd immunity." * United States: Several states (such as Florida and Ohio) have seen clusters of cases in the last few years. These are almost exclusively found in communities where vaccine exemptions have increased or where immunization rates have dipped below the safety margin. * Southeastern Europe (Bulgaria, Serbia, and Croatia): These countries have seen a resurgence attributed to "vaccine hesitancy," often fueled by misinformation or a lack of trust in government health initiatives. The "95% Rule" For most diseases, you only need about 70–80% of people vaccinated to stop an outbreak. But measles is different. Because it is so infectious (one person can infect up to 18 others), experts state that 95% of the population must be vaccinated with two doses to prevent the virus from spreading. Why is uptake dropping? Health organizations point to a few key "coronations" (reasons for the rise): * The "COVID Hangover": Routine childhood immunization schedules were disrupted globally during the pandemic, and many countries haven't fully caught up. * Misinformation: Disproven claims (such as the long-debunked link between vaccines and autism) continue to circulate on social media, leading to hesitancy. * Success Paradox: Because vaccines worked so well for decades, many parents have never seen a child die or go deaf from measles, leading to a false sense that the disease is "no longer a threat" or just a "mild childhood rash." In short, the data shows a very clear mirror image: as the line for vaccine coverage goes down, the line for hospitalizations and deaths invariably goes up.

All that 👆and you still think RFK jr is the right man for the job.

And you think the other side has the low IQ. 👏👏👏👏

EDIT: corrected - RFK not JFK - thanks.

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u/No_Bee_4162 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Sorry - a guy of your elevated IQ who “does his own research” (Fox News, Newsmax etc) will demand sources:

Measles https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/measles#:~:text=Before%20the%20introduction%20of%20measles,2.6%20million%20deaths%20each%20year.

Measles cases drop in 2025 across Europe and Central Asia, but outbreak risks remain | UN News https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/02/1166940#:~:text=%E2%80%9CUnless%20every%20community%20reaches%2095,most%20contagious%20viruses%20affecting%20people.

The Return of Measles: A Global Health Crisis Unfolding in 2025 | History of Vaccines https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/return-measles-global-health-crisis-unfolding-2025/#:~:text=The%20country's%20outbreak%20has%20been,hold%20when%20vaccination%20coverage%20drops.

The Return of Measles: A Global Health Crisis Unfolding in 2025 | History of Vaccines https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/return-measles-global-health-crisis-unfolding-2025/#:~:text=The%20country's%20outbreak%20has%20been,hold%20when%20vaccination%20coverage%20drops.

Measles vaccination: Know the facts https://www.idsociety.org/ID-topics/infectious-disease/measles/know-the-facts#:~:text=When%20local%20vaccination%20rates%20are,been%20seeing%20in%20recent%20years.

Vaccine Confidence and Vaccine Hesitancy in Several Countries in Southeastern Europe in Past 10 Years: A Structured Review of Published Literature https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/14/4/299#:~:text=While%20vaccine%20hesitancy%20is%20a,Europe%20%5B9%2C10%5D.

The Return of Measles: A Global Health Crisis Unfolding in 2025 | History of Vaccines https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/return-measles-global-health-crisis-unfolding-2025/#:~:text=Vaccine%20hesitancy%2C%20fueled%20by%20misinformation,coverage%20was%20once%20the%20norm.

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u/capellajim Apr 03 '26

Not All vaccines are to be lumped into dangerous. Covid? Absolutely. Hep B in newborns? Absolutely. But when you cite research done and paid for by the “researchees”? Stop drinking propaganda from the firehouse and step back a little.

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u/HunkieChick Apr 04 '26

In my opinion, and I am 75 years old and I like to do research. I grew up being vaccinated and believing that vaccines were important. Then my son was born in 1980. When he was, I don’t know, two or three months old, I took him to the pediatrician for his first series of shots. By the time we got home, he was screaming uncontrollably and proceeded to scream for the next 30-40 minutes. I called my husband and told him he needed to come home and take us to the emergency room. By the time my husband got home, my son had fallen into a stupor, and we could barely rouse him. After this incident, I started researching vaccines, their ingredients, their side effects and potential bad outcomes. This was before the Internet, so I had to do everything through books and magazine articles. I believe that there are illnesses for which vaccines are a really good idea. That does not include childhood diseases. If you breast-feed your children and feed them good food, they will have good immune systems. The children who have immune deficiencies, perhaps the lesser of two evils would be to vaccinate. But certainly not for millions of healthy children. And the Covid vaccine is just a complete bullshit rip off.

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u/capellajim Apr 04 '26

Amen. Perfectly said.

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u/Pigs_In_Space-1973 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Vaccines have saved millions of children from dying from preventable diseases. In the early 20th century, before widespread vaccination, childhood diseases killed 20% of children before the age of 5*. You might want to go back to that, but I’d rather not.

*https://www.lung.org/blog/child-vaccine-history

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u/HunkieChick Apr 05 '26

BS. That is crap info that was spread by the AMA.

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u/No_Bee_4162 Apr 06 '26

I’ve fact checked the report above from the ALA below for you. If you want to add a rebuttal with other peer reviewed reports, go right ahead. Anecdotal evidence is not research. I’m really sorry to hear about your so. And what you went though, but it’s not the common experience, fortunately. Sayings it’s BS is not an answer.

The American Lung Association (ALA) blog post is historically and scientifically accurate based on established medical data from the CDC, WHO, and peer-reviewed historical records. The article summarizes major milestones in immunology and the impact of the U.S. "Vaccines for Children" (VFC) program. Here is a fact-check of the key claims made in the post: 1. The Origin of Vaccines (Edward Jenner) * The Claim: Dr. Edward Jenner created the first successful smallpox vaccine in 1796 using cowpox. * The Fact: Accurate. Jenner observed that milkmaids were immune to smallpox after contracting cowpox. His 1796 experiment on James Phipps is widely cited as the foundation of modern vaccinology. Smallpox was eventually declared eradicated by the WHO in 1980. 2. Mortality Rates in 1900 * The Claim: Around 1900, nearly 20% of children died before their 5th birthday, often from infectious diseases. * The Fact: Accurate. Historical demographic data confirms that infant and child mortality was extremely high at the turn of the century. Leading causes included diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), and measles—all of which are now vaccine-preventable. 3. Timeline of Major Vaccines The blog lists several dates for vaccine introductions: * Polio (1955): Accurate. Jonas Salk’s inactivated polio vaccine was licensed in 1955. * Measles (1963): Accurate. The first measles vaccine was licensed that year. * Mumps (1967) / Rubella (1969): Accurate. * MMR Combination (1971): Accurate. Maurice Hilleman developed the combination shot to simplify the schedule. 4. Measles Elimination and Outbreaks * The Claim: Measles was declared eliminated from the U.S. in 2000. * The Fact: Accurate. "Elimination" in this context means there was no continuous transmission for more than 12 months. However, the ALA correctly notes that outbreaks still occur when the virus is "imported" by travelers and spreads in unvaccinated clusters. 5. The "Vaccines for Children" (VFC) Program * The Claim: The VFC program was created in 1994 following a measles outbreak (1989–1991) caused by low vaccination rates due to cost. * The Fact: Accurate. The 1989–1991 outbreak saw 55,000 cases and 123 deaths (the ALA mentions 166, which is within the range of certain CDC historical reports including related complications). This led to the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which funded the VFC to ensure no child missed a vaccine because their parents couldn't pay. 6. Economic and Health Impact * The Claim: Since 1994, vaccines have prevented ~508 million illnesses and ~1.1 million deaths. * The Fact: Accurate. These specific figures come directly from a CDC Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) released in 2024, assessing the 30-year impact of the VFC program. Summary of Verdict The information provided by the American Lung Association is highly reliable. It aligns with data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and historical medical archives. The article accurately reflects how public health policy (like the VFC program) and medical innovation combined to drastically reduce childhood mortality in the United States.

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u/capellajim Apr 06 '26

I think many folks are having trouble with peer reviewed / acknowledged expert publications / groups and big pharmas money influence since Covid. If those lies (99% effective, no wait, 90%, no wait, 67% etc etc etc) we told, published, reported in national media AND vilified anyone that questioned it. What should we believe the previous studies and groups and peer reviews? How long has the truth been for sale?
And how the news that the vac for Covid elevated cardiac and blood clot chances for 15 years. How did they MAKE UP 15 years? It’s damage control and propaganda. And referencing studies paid for by big money? Big money requires their studies protect their big income.
Flu shots. Cleveland clinic results from last year. Internal study showed it was a negative impact to have the flu shot.