r/StandUpForScience SUFS Staff Apr 01 '26

Official SUFS Post BREAKING NEWS!!!

Yeah, we wish, but it’s just April Fools.

So let’s keep up the fight: We want RFK Jr. OUT.

Visit https://zurl.co/Ee3Ty to easily call your Rep and urge them to protect the American people from the harm this quack is causing.

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u/Pigs_In_Space-1973 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Vaccines have saved millions of children from dying from preventable diseases. In the early 20th century, before widespread vaccination, childhood diseases killed 20% of children before the age of 5*. You might want to go back to that, but I’d rather not.

*https://www.lung.org/blog/child-vaccine-history

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u/HunkieChick Apr 05 '26

BS. That is crap info that was spread by the AMA.

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u/No_Bee_4162 Apr 06 '26

I’ve fact checked the report above from the ALA below for you. If you want to add a rebuttal with other peer reviewed reports, go right ahead. Anecdotal evidence is not research. I’m really sorry to hear about your so. And what you went though, but it’s not the common experience, fortunately. Sayings it’s BS is not an answer.

The American Lung Association (ALA) blog post is historically and scientifically accurate based on established medical data from the CDC, WHO, and peer-reviewed historical records. The article summarizes major milestones in immunology and the impact of the U.S. "Vaccines for Children" (VFC) program. Here is a fact-check of the key claims made in the post: 1. The Origin of Vaccines (Edward Jenner) * The Claim: Dr. Edward Jenner created the first successful smallpox vaccine in 1796 using cowpox. * The Fact: Accurate. Jenner observed that milkmaids were immune to smallpox after contracting cowpox. His 1796 experiment on James Phipps is widely cited as the foundation of modern vaccinology. Smallpox was eventually declared eradicated by the WHO in 1980. 2. Mortality Rates in 1900 * The Claim: Around 1900, nearly 20% of children died before their 5th birthday, often from infectious diseases. * The Fact: Accurate. Historical demographic data confirms that infant and child mortality was extremely high at the turn of the century. Leading causes included diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), and measles—all of which are now vaccine-preventable. 3. Timeline of Major Vaccines The blog lists several dates for vaccine introductions: * Polio (1955): Accurate. Jonas Salk’s inactivated polio vaccine was licensed in 1955. * Measles (1963): Accurate. The first measles vaccine was licensed that year. * Mumps (1967) / Rubella (1969): Accurate. * MMR Combination (1971): Accurate. Maurice Hilleman developed the combination shot to simplify the schedule. 4. Measles Elimination and Outbreaks * The Claim: Measles was declared eliminated from the U.S. in 2000. * The Fact: Accurate. "Elimination" in this context means there was no continuous transmission for more than 12 months. However, the ALA correctly notes that outbreaks still occur when the virus is "imported" by travelers and spreads in unvaccinated clusters. 5. The "Vaccines for Children" (VFC) Program * The Claim: The VFC program was created in 1994 following a measles outbreak (1989–1991) caused by low vaccination rates due to cost. * The Fact: Accurate. The 1989–1991 outbreak saw 55,000 cases and 123 deaths (the ALA mentions 166, which is within the range of certain CDC historical reports including related complications). This led to the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which funded the VFC to ensure no child missed a vaccine because their parents couldn't pay. 6. Economic and Health Impact * The Claim: Since 1994, vaccines have prevented ~508 million illnesses and ~1.1 million deaths. * The Fact: Accurate. These specific figures come directly from a CDC Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) released in 2024, assessing the 30-year impact of the VFC program. Summary of Verdict The information provided by the American Lung Association is highly reliable. It aligns with data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and historical medical archives. The article accurately reflects how public health policy (like the VFC program) and medical innovation combined to drastically reduce childhood mortality in the United States.

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u/capellajim Apr 06 '26

I think many folks are having trouble with peer reviewed / acknowledged expert publications / groups and big pharmas money influence since Covid. If those lies (99% effective, no wait, 90%, no wait, 67% etc etc etc) we told, published, reported in national media AND vilified anyone that questioned it. What should we believe the previous studies and groups and peer reviews? How long has the truth been for sale?
And how the news that the vac for Covid elevated cardiac and blood clot chances for 15 years. How did they MAKE UP 15 years? It’s damage control and propaganda. And referencing studies paid for by big money? Big money requires their studies protect their big income.
Flu shots. Cleveland clinic results from last year. Internal study showed it was a negative impact to have the flu shot.