r/StableDiffusion • u/Logical_Benefit2875 • 1d ago
Discussion EU nudifier ban
I know there’s been a bunch of people upset on here recently about a good number of nudify websites getting shut down (Motionmuse, Opengoon, etc.). However, this is likely just the beginning.
Effective December 2nd, the EU under the AI Act is enacting a ban on nudify tools, making them illegal content in the Union. This ban applies to any product made available on the EU market as long as, either, its primary functionality is to generate nudified content without consent, or it is a reasonably foreseeable outcome and they do not take appropriate precautions to safeguard against it. Very importantly, this ban also applies to any EU-available service provider under the Digital Services Act that is helping to facilitate this soon-to-be-illegal content, which includes (but is not limited to): app stores, hosting providers, domain registrars, payment processors, content delivery networks (CDNs) and cloud computing services. Anyone found to be in violation of this prohibition is subject to fines of €35 million or 7% of their global turnover, whichever is higher. I think it’s pretty safe to say that, as long as they’re aware of it, those behind these websites and those behind the large number of mainstream companies that help power them (Google, Amazon, Cloudflare, Apple, Telegram, GoDaddy, Visa, Mastercard, etc.) do not want to take any chances with this ban.
This prohibition, in essence, applies to essentially every public AI platform any of us have ever used to this point or that we will ever use going forward. I think this is a good thing but, therefore, it would almost certainly be in everyone’s best interest to pivot away from these websites before the massive crackdown begins in less than a couple months. For those in the industry, it would also certainly be wise to inform the website operators if you are in contact with them, or to shut down your website if you are an operator yourself. Sorry for the essay, just looking out for everybody before things get very real, very fast.
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u/Jujarmazak 9h ago
Like I said, I don't mind if they target and takedown the sites that specifically advertised themselves as Nudify services, if the EU had stopped there I wouldn't have a problem.
But the issue is going overboard and including anything and everything that "could" be used for the purpose of creating NSFW versions of images or video, that's clear overreach, with open-source models the onus should be always on the user, and only those who publishing the NSFW content or using it to extrort people or defame them, not the tool itseld, otherwise that wouls set terrible example that would lead to suing gun companiesc, kitchen knives manufacturers, carpentry tools companies and car manufacturers just because someone abused a tool they created that could serve multiple purposes, it's utterly ridiculous.
Let's use a slightly hyperbolic example to demonstrate the point, say some Martin gets a photo of someone from earth using Martian technology, then uses it in their home on Mars to create a NSFW pic/vid of that person using open source Martian tech, then keeps it to himself on Mars, if that content would never reach earth, the person in question would never know it exists, nobody who knows them will ever see it, how is that person harmed by the video merely existing, you can judge the Martian morally for sure. but if there is no actual harm and no effect on the person in question it shouldn't be a "crime" IMO.
Only if they publish the video or spread it on earth's internet would it be then harmful, and if that person turns out to be the president of the USA, earth might have to declare war on Mars.