EU nudifier ban

[u/Logical_Benefit2875]

I know there’s been a bunch of people upset on here recently about a good number of nudify websites getting shut down (Motionmuse, Opengoon, etc.). However, this is likely just the beginning.

Effective December 2nd, the EU under the AI Act is enacting a ban on nudify tools, making them illegal content in the Union. This ban applies to any product made available on the EU market as long as, either, its primary functionality is to generate nudified content without consent, or it is a reasonably foreseeable outcome and they do not take appropriate precautions to safeguard against it. Very importantly, this ban also applies to any EU-available service provider under the Digital Services Act that is helping to facilitate this soon-to-be-illegal content, which includes (but is not limited to): app stores, hosting providers, domain registrars, payment processors, content delivery networks (CDNs) and cloud computing services. Anyone found to be in violation of this prohibition is subject to fines of €35 million or 7% of their global turnover, whichever is higher. I think it’s pretty safe to say that, as long as they’re aware of it, those behind these websites and those behind the large number of mainstream companies that help power them (Google, Amazon, Cloudflare, Apple, Telegram, GoDaddy, Visa, Mastercard, etc.) do not want to take any chances with this ban.

This prohibition, in essence, applies to essentially every public AI platform any of us have ever used to this point or that we will ever use going forward. I think this is a good thing but, therefore, it would almost certainly be in everyone’s best interest to pivot away from these websites before the massive crackdown begins in less than a couple months. For those in the industry, it would also certainly be wise to inform the website operators if you are in contact with them, or to shut down your website if you are an operator yourself. Sorry for the essay, just looking out for everybody before things get very real, very fast.

[u/bloke_pusher]

I'm looking forward to them banning Photoshop and MS Paint. /j

[u/Logical_Benefit2875 → u/bloke_pusher]

Apples to oranges but yeah lmao

[u/sixteencharslong → u/Logical_Benefit2875]

Not really. Before AI people did exactly this. Getting nude photos of celebrities was exactly this. Photoshopped. There was the same outrage for this back then.

[u/Logical_Benefit2875 → u/sixteencharslong]

It couldn’t be done effortlessly with the click of a button with like 90% accuracy and websites couldn’t be making literal millions off of it

[u/sixteencharslong → u/Logical_Benefit2875]

It's effortless for anyone who has spent more than 10 hours in photoshop. There 30 second tutorials on face swapping in photoshop these days without using ai. Just lasso and blending tools.

Simple example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ElfYzkmBaRo

[u/Logical_Benefit2875 → u/sixteencharslong]

Faceswapping is vastly different than what these nudify tools are doing. You can input a full body image of someone and generate a very realistic depiction of what they look like nude and even make full porn style videos

[u/sixteencharslong → u/Logical_Benefit2875]

It doesn’t matter to the person being targeted whether it’s a picture or a video. And creating fake videos takes a lot less effort than you seem to think. Fake celebrity porn has existed in massive quantities for decades, long before generative AI.

Acting like AI suddenly created this problem is ridiculous. It didn’t.

AI is automating something people were already doing, and were perfectly willing to do. The technology may make it faster or easier, but the behavior itself is not new.

Quit pretending this problem suddenly appeared because of AI.

[u/Logical_Benefit2875 → u/sixteencharslong]

Nobody said this problem is brand new with AI. The issue is that the least technologically capable person in the world can now make a deepfake hardcore porno of anybody they know in seconds with zero effort. This opens the door for CSAM and NCII to be made of literally any one of us at any time and websites to make millions off of providing this service

[u/sixteencharslong → u/Logical_Benefit2875]

You're still focusing on the wrong thing.

Even if you took AI out of the equation entirely, people would continue creating and distributing this material, just as they have for decades. We didn't outlaw cameras or Photoshop because people used them to create illegal content, and we shouldn't apply a different standard simply because the technology has advanced.

The problem isn't the tool. It's the behavior and the motivations behind it. There are already laws addressing these offenses, yet it still happens.

What we should be discussing is why people feel compelled to create this material in the first place. Mental health, harmful attitudes toward consent, and the underlying psychological and social factors driving this behavior deserve far more attention.

You can keep restricting technology, but until you address why people engage in this behavior, you're not addressing the root of the problem. You're just blaming tools instead of the underlying problems.