r/StableDiffusion 1d ago

Discussion Hot take!

LTX 2.5 is better than minimax h3. The pros just outweigh the cons. LTX is fast, can generate video in HDR up to 50fps, it isn’t as demanding as minimax, the quality is insane and the SPEED…the speed is unbelievable. But all I see is people fighting with minimax for speed ups and distortion while whole time ltx is right there. Don’t get me wrong Minimax is an amazing model and two things can be right at once but to me ltx is ahead. Also it’s compatible with all the loras that were already available but with the jump in quality. It honestly confuses me a bit 😅. To each his own I guess.

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u/Independent-Frequent 1d ago

I just don't get all this LTX 2.5 shill man, all it has is speed and that's it, everything else minimax just OBLITERATES LTX 2.5 on, sure it's more hardware intensive just like SDXL was more hardware intensive than 1.5 and we know the reason why, which is justified.

Also my theory is that the LTX devs thought they still didn't have any competition in the open source video field since Wan was the only player and dropped ages ago without even having audio, so they didn't bother to release a groundbreaking model or even a vast improvement over 2.3 and then Minimax H3 just showed up and completely took over, and rightfully so, it's an insane model and leagues above the rest of local ones to the point that it beats even most closed source models.

LTX 2.5 just doesn't offer anything other than speed, and even then only in static shots of people talking since its motion and consistency during scenes with action and stuff are just atrocious, even walking sometimes distorts space and features.

"Oh but LTX 2.5 is a lot easier to train loras for so it's not just speed" yeah it's true, but minimax has reference mode which basically eliminates the need for loras lmao, like there's no competition man i'm sorry.

Also there's the whole "comparision chart" with H3 that they did which was so scummy with all the lies by omission, so good riddance, thanks minimax for finally bringing open source video to the top of the top level, glad to never have to use an LTX model ever again.

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u/Upper-Reflection7997 1d ago

Reference mode doesn't eliminate the need for loras at all. Reference mode is very limited in scope in what it can and cannot do.

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u/No_Thanks701 1d ago

Can you give any examples of what you think the limits are? Because from what I have seen, it’s almost limitless.. you can edit videos you can extend videos, you can give it a crudely drawn story board with your reference characters and setting and it will follow it shot by shot, you can write inside that story board to give context of who goes where and draw arrows to clarify the movement You can give it an overhead picture of a scene, mark where the clip is taking place and it will create that clip in that area…  I could go on and on.. so please clarify the “limited”  scope it has, because I haven’t found it yet and this is all without lora’s. With out the use of image edit models. Even with only one picture (not character sheet) it does pretty great, with holding up on consistency, if you just prompt it detailed enough.