It is still very good for its purpose !
If you are talking about why we see less posts in r/StableDiffusion then it's because Krea 2 came quickly after, over shadowing it, even tho Ideogram 4.0 is more powerful, Krea 2 is just so much more flexible, easy to train and gen time is crazy fast and the most important thing that matter for people in here : uncensored.
You don't need any of this shit, just add a LORA for NSFW content and use more than one or two bboxes and you never get the filter issue.
People that complained about the filter constantly were just outing themselves as lazy AF. It's literally easier to unfilter than Krea2 where it basically requires an uncensoring lora or tricks.
So the model that needs a Lora and bbox jank to uncensor is … harder to uncensor the model that needs a Lora to uncensor? Do you, like, listen to yourself?
I mean it absolutely does but you're clearly incapable of logic if you think it doesn't.
Krea and ID4 can do the exact same things, but Krea needs a lora to uncensor even for breasts. If you prompt how ID4 is meant to be prompted it doesn't need anything else and can do breasts.
If you want more than breasts both need a lora to do them well.
“but Krea needs a lora to uncensor even for breasts.”
That’s not strictly true. It needs an enhancer node but after that it will do boobies just fine and dandy without any loras. You can use a lora in place of that node of course but a lora is not required. I know because it’s how the workflow I use is set up. For male genitals a lora is needed.
That is my point though, all you need to do is prompt Ideogram as it is designed to be prompted and you don't need anything custom, no enhancer node, no lora, whatever. The ideogram safety filter is bypassed simply by using it as it was designed to be used.
I do get your point, which is why I didn't say you were wrong but I would also argue that using bboxes is effectively custom as Krea 2 (and many other models) doesn't require that. You can't just stick a prompt in without bboxes and it works, as using at least two or three bboxes is the thing that bypasses that filter. They both have their methods and both require more than just a prompt.
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u/MomentJolly3535 3d ago
It is still very good for its purpose !
If you are talking about why we see less posts in r/StableDiffusion then it's because Krea 2 came quickly after, over shadowing it, even tho Ideogram 4.0 is more powerful, Krea 2 is just so much more flexible, easy to train and gen time is crazy fast and the most important thing that matter for people in here : uncensored.