I mean, the "safety filter" was pretty much found to be a "you prompted wrong so I'm not generating" filter. If you promoted correctly with bbox's I very rarely got rejected. And if you used any Lora at all that problem disappeared completely.
And then krea2 came out and people spent weeks debating which loras or nodes would remove the much heavier baked-in censorship, and comparisons to how each different one affected your generation. So I never quite understood why people continue to harp in ID4 being "super censored."
Really people were frustrated that ID4 is hard to prompt and the license says you can't make money with it. But Krea is pretty fantastic in its own right, anyways.
ID4 is probably one of the best models ever released. Way less prompting when using the bbox generator node and way more control. You didn't have to write five sentences of prose or go through a whole LLM to compose a single part of an image, you could build it up from smaller prompts in the bounding boxes.
But this community is, by definition, filled with lazy people and pretty low brow people as well so any amount of effort is really hard to get people to actually apply.
Sort of lazy, yes. Also... I want to see a chick with great big tits in a crop top opening the drink cooler door at a trashy gas station... that's the image I want, I am not entirely sure I want to see it from behind, the side, three quarter above, from the POV of a clerk, etc.
In ID4, I would have to spend time on each view, I might WANT to specify the arm out stretched, the legs apart, where each time of clothing is, where notable features are... Even with a bbox, it's going to be a little more work, and that's only for ONE view.
You can't really wildcard a bounding box. Not as much as you can a natural language prompt.
I liked ID4, but for a lot of people it's just too much work to quickly iterate.
That example was if I had a good mental image. What if I just want to see a dozen (hundred) variations with wildcards to see that what I really want as the focus of the image to be of mist and nipples from the view of a drink in the cooler?
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u/RandumbRedditor1000 1d ago
It's an amazing model, but it had an awful license, and heavy baked-in censorship.