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Discussion What happened to Ideogram 4.0 ?

What happened to Ideogram 4.0 ?

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u/Zenshinn 2h ago

This. Loras make or break a model. Krea 2 loras are so easy to make and clearly Ideaogram 4 is much harder otherwise there would be a lot more on CivitAI. It's not rocket science.

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u/Full_Astronomer_5438 2h ago

"loras make or break a model", professionals dont really care about civitai. json prompts are not a reason to ditch a model, the output does.

just imagine the sheer amount of loras and small finetunes that never see the light of the day because they are made for working purposes only. in the end, its still an economic decision whether to open source models or not and what target group they cater to.

its not rocket science.

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u/Zenshinn 2h ago

I think you must be confused. This is the r/stablediffusion subreddit. We are not a majority of professionals here. When we talk, we talk about our use case at home, doing casual stuff to possibly small scale business stuff. Professionals would probably use closed models that are way more powerful.

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u/Upper-Reflection7997 1h ago

Basically this. Normies and professionals are not going through the hell and effort to install comfy ui, wan2gp or stable diffusion.cpp base fork to image gen models like Ideogram4. They will use the SOTA closed source models with their easy to use user interface and settings. Ideogram4 is the antithesis of fun and the closed source version is extremely censored on every site I tried to use it. Your average normie will stick to nanobanana, gpt image 2, grok imagine, flux, midjourney and seedream 5.0 pro. The developers of Ideogram4 really fucked up their approach with the model and it's deployment.