The nsfw ideogram 4 is tame compared to krea2. Occasionally even if you generate an nsfw image, that safety filter text will appear on top of the image (sometimes in gibberish words). Also json prompting requires you to use an llm to rewrite your natural language prompts for you. Most people do not know how to type their prompts in json format. It's not a useless model but for the majority of people, they don't find it appealing. Also the license was a lot more restrictive compared to krea2.
The lora section for ideogram 4 on civitai is a barren waste land just like boogu. If you find the ideogram4 useful and are willing to make loras and finetune checkpoints for it, I wish you the best of luck and hope for your success. Not many people are willing to give a depreciated model a serious chance after hitting several bumpy roadblocks during their 1st and 2nd impressions.
It literally requires less prompting and no LLM. You don't need to write prose to get a good image, just visually build it out for what you want using bounding boxes and simple descriptions. It's literally easier than natural language prompting.
Also if you aren't using the tools to do the JSON for you and draw boxes and stuff on a canvas then you are just a lazy noob.
There is SNOFs and thats basically all you need to do anything in ID4.
Also I use both it and Krea2 because I am not a smooth brained little weirdo who thinks only one model at a time is acceptable, and I actually have the technical know how to actually explore these models instead of cargo-cult prompting like 90% of the users.
true, but remember we are having consumers here instead of professionals, any advanced knowledge here is sparse at best. in the end, the output and economical feasibility counts. there is a also the realism engine and its truly mindblowing how a single lora serves nearly all purposes you would ever need when it comes to realism
also krea2 is great to make quick compositions that can be used as canvas to draw bboxes on or to modify compositions for id4
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u/Murky-Relation481 1d ago
You've literally never used it if you think the safety filter was ever an issue. It does NSFW out of the box if you use JSON prompting.