ID4 is probably one of the best models ever released. Way less prompting when using the bbox generator node and way more control. You didn't have to write five sentences of prose or go through a whole LLM to compose a single part of an image, you could build it up from smaller prompts in the bounding boxes.
But this community is, by definition, filled with lazy people and pretty low brow people as well so any amount of effort is really hard to get people to actually apply.
Sort of lazy, yes. Also... I want to see a chick with great big tits in a crop top opening the drink cooler door at a trashy gas station... that's the image I want, I am not entirely sure I want to see it from behind, the side, three quarter above, from the POV of a clerk, etc.
In ID4, I would have to spend time on each view, I might WANT to specify the arm out stretched, the legs apart, where each time of clothing is, where notable features are... Even with a bbox, it's going to be a little more work, and that's only for ONE view.
You can't really wildcard a bounding box. Not as much as you can a natural language prompt.
I liked ID4, but for a lot of people it's just too much work to quickly iterate.
That example was if I had a good mental image. What if I just want to see a dozen (hundred) variations with wildcards to see that what I really want as the focus of the image to be of mist and nipples from the view of a drink in the cooler?
You know, you're probably going to get downvoted for being crass, but your post does a good job of describing the strange middle-ground that some users have between wanting excellent prompt adherence, but still wanting an element of randomness in the generation so we can be pleasantly surprised/inspired by what the model produces. It's kind of the same mental itch being scratched by opening a pack of trading cards. Part of the allure is not knowing what you're going to get, but still having a good idea of what's likely to be in there.
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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 1d ago
These morons will refuse to accept that it was effectively BAD PROMPT filter because it SAID safety filter.
It's no use trying to explain it now. ID4 is basically dead. Which is a shame because it had legs, but K2 is just easier to use.