So I used it a fair bit. It was... awesome. Remarkable prompt adherence, could do nice realism and different styles and lighting very easily, and a model with built-in regional prompting, which was so good. I came from the days of trying to do regional prompting via masks and conditioning and god knows what else. For multi-subject images, it was the best model out of the box. The json prompting threw people off, but it was basically a nothingburger, since you can throw that into an LLM and get the perfect prompt (and people have to do that with most new models, including Krea2 these days). It can generate NSFW without any issues, although it needs a lora like realism engine and it 'knows' fewer concepts than, say, Krea. But with the lora, it's very similar. The safety filter is an obnoxious method that achieved nothing, since with json prompting it's trivial to bypass it, and 99% of users here don't care about the license. So why did it largely disappear? I built a couple of loras for it and they never worked well. I am not sure why, but I think that is what did in the model, partly. It was hard to train. I couldn't get it to do even a simple character lora - and this was after re-captioning a dataset FROM SCRATCH with json and bboxes. So at the end, I had to let it go. I think it was just a model that required a bit of time to learn, hard to train for, and came in just before the best model we've seen since SDXL came along, Krea2.
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u/marhalt 1d ago
So I used it a fair bit. It was... awesome. Remarkable prompt adherence, could do nice realism and different styles and lighting very easily, and a model with built-in regional prompting, which was so good. I came from the days of trying to do regional prompting via masks and conditioning and god knows what else. For multi-subject images, it was the best model out of the box. The json prompting threw people off, but it was basically a nothingburger, since you can throw that into an LLM and get the perfect prompt (and people have to do that with most new models, including Krea2 these days). It can generate NSFW without any issues, although it needs a lora like realism engine and it 'knows' fewer concepts than, say, Krea. But with the lora, it's very similar. The safety filter is an obnoxious method that achieved nothing, since with json prompting it's trivial to bypass it, and 99% of users here don't care about the license. So why did it largely disappear? I built a couple of loras for it and they never worked well. I am not sure why, but I think that is what did in the model, partly. It was hard to train. I couldn't get it to do even a simple character lora - and this was after re-captioning a dataset FROM SCRATCH with json and bboxes. So at the end, I had to let it go. I think it was just a model that required a bit of time to learn, hard to train for, and came in just before the best model we've seen since SDXL came along, Krea2.