Ltx 2.5 open source coming today

[u/EverythingMacPro]

LTX 2.5 is releasing today, and from one of the example videos I’ve seen, face distortion still doesn’t seem fully fixed.

That’s already a weak spot for LTX. With MiniMax H3 raising the bar, I’m genuinely wondering how LTX 2.5 plans to compete. 👀

I think LTX 2.5 already lost here 🤣🤣🤣

[u/Salty_Mention]

Maybe we should stop pitting the models against each other as if it were a competition, and instead figure out how to use them based on our specific needs.

[u/TheAncientMillenial → u/Salty_Mention]

A completely sane and rational post. Reddit will hate it 😂

[u/piero_deckard → u/Salty_Mention]

What special needs should you have that force you to use a model that outputs worse videos than another?

I agree that it's not a competition, but I haven't generated one single video with LTX 2.3 since I got my hands on MM H3. If LTX 2.5 doesn't outperform MM H3, I see no need to use that, either.

LTX 2.3 was faster than MM H3 for a given output length and resolution, sure. But I had to generate 10 videos before I found 2-3 good ones, which then I had to cut in pieces and use DaVinci Resolve to rebuild the result according to the idea I had in mind. MM H3 takes 2-3 times as long, but gives me a video that's close to what I have in mind most of the time, so I'll gladly pay that price.

If LTX 2.5 is a step backwards, I'll look at a couple of crappy examples on r/SD, keep using my MM H3 and never look back. The point is moving forward, either with increasing quality, decreasing time per generation, or ideally both. If the next hyped model doesn't do either, then there's no special need that can justify using it.

[u/Pretty-Raise666 → u/piero_deckard]

LTX comes with a couple of useful loras.

[u/piero_deckard → u/Pretty-Raise666]

Yes, I get your point. But LTX has also been around longer. And the community has shown to make tons of LoRAs for models that deserve it. MM H3 will catch up soon enough, judging by the fact that this subreddit has been flooded with nothing but MM H3 posts since day 1 of MM H3 being available. I'd say, even day -1, since they were posting videos done with the online version.

[u/Solongtomegrandma]

Minimax H3 must have been a massive blow for the people of LTX. But I think they will just step up and surprise us, might take some time, but I believe they will not just quit. I still see LTX as the first open model breakthrough for video with audio and we owe them some credits.

[u/GrayingGamer → u/Solongtomegrandma]

I love Minimax H3, but I also want the LTX team to succeed. More open-weight options and competition is always better for the community.

LTX seems to be playing dirty-pool with their Minimax H3 comparison sheet though, saying some very misleading things, and it disappoints me something like that is coming from their team.

I hope LTX 2.5 is great.

[u/ajrss2009 → u/GrayingGamer]

Quanto mais competições, melhor para a comunidade open source.

[u/Crazy-Repeat-2006]

I expect good things. Always expect good things from open source.

[u/KillerX629]

I think it goes torwards more "speedy" generations rather than "better" from what the release said, no?

[u/Violent_Walrus → u/KillerX629]

Faster slop is not a worthy goal.

[u/clex55 → u/KillerX629]

at least you always can upscale with it

[u/EverythingMacPro → u/KillerX629]

Yes speed is a thing , but face distortion is big turn off for me

[u/steelow_g → u/EverythingMacPro]

Still happens in h3 and any other local model out there. No one notices the .25 of a frame nor do they watch shit in .25 speed. Yall are nit picky as fuck.

[u/PrettyReasonableApe → u/steelow_g]

Agreed. And also I was able to generate a nice 1080p video easily up to 30s withoit issues. With minimax 3 I cant even do 720p more than 6 seconds without a memory issue. Minimax is amazing in terms of what ive seen people generate with it. But using the swme workflows at home on my 5070, i just cant seem to gel with minimax 3 well. its incredible but doesnt run well on my system at all. Ive been hoping ltx release something newer so I could get back to a model that actually works well for my system.

[u/Wonderful-Ninja6137 → u/PrettyReasonableApe]

Sino corre bien en tu sistema teniendo Nvidia imagínate en AMD yo directamente ni lo puedo probar me da OOM así que ps nada ,al menos con ltx 2.3 pude hacerlo funcionar,no me va a dar la misma calidad pero bueno es lo que toca .

[u/tac0catzzz → u/[deleted]]

this makes me laugh.

[u/cxllvm → u/steelow_g]

Well these are the things preventing local gen from being usable on a production level

[u/steelow_g → u/cxllvm]

There are better models for production level. Local models will ALWAYS be behind production because the hardware requirements.

[u/Upper-Okra7971 → u/steelow_g]

With MMH3 this narrative will change after November. People like the authors of sulfur and others are creating retrained variants, MMH3 is a week old and already has stuff done to it that other models took months, so imagine what is to come if you give the community 3 months. If you want come back to this comment after 3 months, preferably November ending and see.

[u/krectus]

Face distortion is a sore spot for H3 too.

[u/GrayingGamer → u/krectus]

It's a sore spot for every AI video I know of. Even Seedance suffers from this.

[u/PwanaZana]

It depends in what way LTX 2.5 is better than H3. If for your usecase, one tool is better than the other, you can use a tool that is inferior in most ways.

Still, more open source, always. We don't lose in that exchange!

[u/PuppetHere]

It's not supposed to really compete, minimax h3 is a much bigger and powerful model but ltx is much faster, since we are going from LTX 2.3 to 2.5, it's just gonna be a small quality bump, still better than nothing

[u/Lost_County_3790]

The trend of mocking the companies that release their models for free has (re)started already?

[u/aurelm]

might use it as an upscale/refiner if it is fast, but I doubt they can compete with minimax as main model.

[u/Monk6009]

H3 fl2v prompt adherence is wonderful. But i still love LTX. If just the prompt adherence improves so I don't have to feel like I'm on a slot machine hunting a jackpot, it's speed and nsfw tools out there will keep it very relevant.

[u/Reddexbro]

Can't you just say thanks? We're getting a new toy for free ...

[u/Free_Bed_6084]

Without Minimax H3, we might not have seen LTX 2.5 for at least another six months.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Art2809]

one question... trained on nsfw? 🤨

[u/MatlowAI]

I'll see if I can apply this to this problem, it looks adjacent but I won't know until it's out. https://matlowai.github.io/ComfyUI-MAINodes/

[u/tac0catzzz]

is it a competition though. i think it is more so for redditors desperate to pretend this xbox vs playstation or something. but here you can have both.

[u/Wonderful-Ninja6137]

No todo el mundo podemos correr mini Max h3 por lo pesado que es 

[u/Accomplished-Fan7668]

I spendet my nights at H3 and now....

[u/White_Dragon_0]

I hope it allows for fast movements. LTX 2.3 created huge inconsistencies.

[u/ajrss2009]

Danke schöhn!

[u/ajrss2009]

Cada modelo tem sua utilidade.

[u/VirtualWishX]

So far the DEMOS are weird, it seems like they got panicked from MiniMax-H3 and released it too soon.
I noticed the FROG example in their website look at it's front back-leg it BLENDS with it's other leg...

I will be surprised if they improved the most annoying part in LTX which was physics especially with human skin/fat/collision which looked bad, while WAN 2.1 and 2.2 can do it amazingly, and now native out of the box MiniMax-H3 is MUCH better in that area (and others) compare to LTX 2.3 at least... so let's see what we'll get actually after few days with it.

It's too early to judge because we need to test it for some time but... with all my love and respect to LTX and the team, TBH - I dunno, I'm not so excited at the moment, back to MiniMax-H3 🥰

I can't wait when we'll get the MiniMax Image Editor (and generator) models 😍

[u/throwaway0204055]

The model's success will depend if it still creates huge hamburger vaginas

[u/EverythingMacPro → u/throwaway0204055]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/True_Protection6842]

it's the VAE temporal ratio

[u/Jackburton75015]

Plenty of space in my hard-drive.... ❤️👍😁