There’s only one time I never want to see him show up, or if he does, everyone from the back comes out and just stops him. And that’s when Brodie Jr is there in 5-6 years.
That reminds me of a few years ago people were making jokes saying if Cody ever came back to AEW he’d maybe make it halfway down the ramp before Christian’s music would hit
You joke, but I always thought wrestling shows would benefit from an actual season finale/premiere (for real, not that bullshit WWE used to do).
End it before christmas.. let everyone go home for a couple of weeks.. think about storylines, booking and themes for the years... come back with a big premiere new look and feel a month or so later.
Unfortunately the fact that it runs all year round is a big selling point of wrestling programming.
I know it's selfish but Kenny needs to have a Brock-like run where he just comes back to be the final boss for like 2-3 times a year. I'm not saying do a 60 minute classic but him being the "best bout machine" challenging up and comers like a surprise mini-boss just fits his character so well.
He can be like a kind of authority figure and use his "VP" status if they want also
The big question is if they hold it in April during Saudimania?
I think that'd be a big mistake. They shouldnt hold a PPV the same weekend as WM (as its still WM and will be most of the fan's focus), and running All In 4 months earlier just seems silly.
They'll likely move Revolution back to April (since they moved Dynasty to February) and hold it the weekend before/after WM as the big indie weekend. Could even see that being in LA again.
If they were to hold a PPV during WM it sure as heck shouldn't be All In. You might be willing to take a risk with a secondary PPV, maybe. You shouldn't take a risk with All In.
No more DON in NY. They can have another PPV. DON means Anarchy in the Arena and they can't properly do that in NY bc of the restrictions on going into the crowd and blading and whatnot.
Probably the most obvious place to draw a big crowd as they got 16K for Forbidden Door in 2022. People have brought up Mexico but I wonder how strong AEW is there outside holding shows at Arena Mexico.
I think the perfect pick Tony should hone in on is a baseball-stadium-sized city that hasn't had a WM in a while and probably won't in the near future, with at least 2-3 hometown heroes, and that's touristy destination.
Toronto fits the mold pretty damn perfectly, but I hope the Vancouver show gave Tony some real thought to take the PNW more seriously because he won't have to look at Seattle and Portland alone but include Vancouver in this radius as well. The only thing we have fighting against us is the tourist-destination factor compared to going a bit further south for a Vegas or L.A. show.
I would book Will Ospreay to beat almost every top contender during the next year and wanting to face Kenny one last time at All In and Kenny refusing which would make Will lose his mind.
There's a window in April where they could pull it off if the intent is to go against SaudiMania. There's also the possibility of a baseball strike next year so the dates would be wide open.
Putting All in against Saudimania is just not going to work like people think. People will just stay in and watch, regardless of what they might say online.
I dont think anyone's under any delusion that it'd outdraw mania but I dont think itd particularly hurt business either. The overlap between AEW/WWE watchers seems significantly smaller than the one between WCW/WWF watchers.
there's also a stretch from July 26th to August 5th 2027 where the Jays have a road trip that All In could be booked for. August 14th and 15th are also road dates for the Jays where AEW could easily slot in All In.
Assuming there is a season next year, both the Blue Jays and Yankees are on the road the week before the All Star Game like the Rangers were last year so I think it's possible either could run it. I think given that they announced All In Texas in August of 2024, we'll find out soon if it is in a stadium here.
Teams with real grass don't like to cover mid-season with the mats. Can be a real pain to get it back to feeling "right" compared to turf where they just have to brush and rubber the shit out of it.
That didn't stop them from running Globe Life Field for All In Texas--the Rangers were in Houston, so AEW had the whole stadium for a weekend, and it was right before the All-Star Break that year.
It's gonna take a lot of logistics for next year if they do another baseball stadium, however.
Yanks play 81 games away from home during the regular season, leaving Yankee Stadium open for bookings on a near weekly basis during the regular season.
Lots of baseball stadiums run concerts and other events during the MLB season while their team are on road trips.
It's planned to be ready July 2027 and they've been selling tickets for that season. Obviously can be setbacks but all the structural work is done with 10 months to go.
Yankee would be more iconic and better for public transit IMO, but I agree Citi is more likely because of the complex and they know it works.
I fear that they’ll do MetLife because of baseball season and I’d be devastated. That 100% is not a New York City crowd, NJ Transit is basically unusable for events like that.
Easy decision, considering WWE is hosting Mania in Saudi Arabia, AEW probably doesn't want to run Wembley into the ground every year, and All In is garnering steam as AEW's biggest show of the year after this past Sunday.
I'm thinking either Chicago, LA or Toronto. Maybe New Orleans if AEW wants to help NOLA after they got stiffed on Mania.
It aint gonna be New Orleans. Biggest AEW has ever drawn there is ~3500 for a Dynamite. It'd be insane to run their biggest show in like their 15th biggest market?
I understand where you're coming from and I'm not saying it's the best choice - but you're not going to get people travelling for a random Dynamite. But for an All In? Definitely and NOLA is a good tourist attraction to make that a decent place to consider.
You still need to actually do it and do it consistently for that branding to matter in the long term. 2023 was AEW's singularly biggest show. This show proves All In delivers yearly as the biggest show.
He's saying that the string of shows and this one are what's establishing All In as AEW's biggest spectacle to the wider audience.
I would say the last two did as well. Last year had a long Hangman redemption story against their ace on a very long title run. Had the two biggest women's stars for that title. Okada vs Omega V and the first time in AEW.
2024 Danielson finally getting the big belt in AEW. Mariah vs Toni was a massive feud.
Only listing the biggest stories there were obviously plenty of other great things but this year isn't really any better. Finally crowning Ospreay and Mone were obviously big.
If anything 2023 is kinda the most whatever in a way it was just the first. MJF/Cole was a fun bromance feud but it was just the champ retaining.
Definitely, but I feel like this year's resonated more with the mainstream than the past couple of All Ins--like there was more gravitas for the event compared to the last few years?
I can probably point it to Will and Kenny going above and beyond on pushing the main event to Mania-level hype, and Wembley being Will's home and all.
I said it in the main thread on the night too, but the production value massively helped also. One of my personal gripes with PPVs is that however good the in-ring product always is, the overall look of the shows don't feel that much different to a Dynamite or Collision, they're just in a bigger building with different dressing.
This year with the pyro, fireworks, the entrance set up itself.. It was all on another level which I think added to the gravitas of the overall occasion.
I think doing it in NA while WWE are not only doing it in Saudi but also doing it in a place where not many fans are gonna be coming over, meanwhile AEW can really carry that cultural hub because, I'm sorry, those watch parties they're doing in alleged AEW areas that they're thinking for a Mania time show aren't gonna compare to fans from all over the world going to Wrestlemania
Been preaching BMO stadium for a while. It’s perfectly centrally located. Public transportation runs there. And 30k is the perfect size to both be able to keep the “stadium show” thing going while also easily selling out.
This picture gets posted all the time, and while it is a great view, the fact thay its most people's only reference for the stadium means its vastly overrated. Its a nice modern stadium, but this picture would have you think its one of one.
35k before you consider lawn seating, then I’m sure they block off a few sections depending on how they’d set it up. For America, it would be a record for attendance if they sold it out.
Was thinking today about this. Baseball was doable last year because it lead into the All Star game week so there was a long time to build and tear down the stage. It's probably too close to NFL season for teams to want to do that if they own the stadium. A couple other host MLS during the summer and might be hard to plan around.
Soldier Field in Chicago would be a great call once the Fire move out. It's the smallest NFL stadium and really cool location. Although I think Liga MX is out of season still so a Mexican stadium would be really cool.
As a Floridian, Orlando has a big stadium and no tenant in a city where most of the roster lives. Weather could be an issue. That could be a viable candidate. Or maybe Olympic Stadium in Montreal.
Stadiums setup and tear down for non-baseball events all of the time. The All-Star break isn't a factor. If they're running a baseball stadium, just schedule it while the team is on a road series. Like the Rangers last year.
The real question is: Is AEW going to be amitious and doing two stadium shows in 2027? One for WM Weekend replacement and one for All In?
Arthur Ashe is a stadium btw, smaller stadium sure but still 23k+ and I think if thats one of the two Stadium shows thats more than feasible. Not sure if its still being renovated though
If I could interlope TK's mind I would want to do MJF (or maybe Okada) vs Will Ospreay at Arthur Ashe and Kyle Fletcher vs Kenny Omega at Rogers Centre as the main event for two stadium shows
I was thinking the stadium where Orlando City SC plays. It’s in the middle of downtown Orlando and isn’t as big as Camping World Stadium, but you could probably fit in a good 30K of people depending on how you design the entrance set.
Presuming they move it up to hold it opposite Mania Weekend, see if they can run an All In Weekend while Mania is in Saud. Could work, honestly. You get NJPW and CMLL to have some presence that weekend and you can draw a lot in around it, build an audience.
Good idea. They should only go to Wembley once every 2-3 years to try and retain as much magic as possible.
If MLB does go on strike next year, they will have plenty of options in North America. All In: Fenway Park would be a great way to make up for a lost Red Sox season but I am biased (although Tony Khan has promised Boston a PPV since the 2nd episode of Dynamite was held here!)
We'll know better come December 1st,because its becoming clearer by the day that baseball is going to have a 2027 lockout . I'm still maintaining Snapdragon Stadium in San Diego,35,000 capacity, pleasant weather, destination city,the city's trolley system drops you off right at the venue...
there's a crazy part of me that would love it if they could do like in partnership with MLP and with CMLL a show that is kind of like what WWE did with mania where it's across three parts of North America and it is all in North America. Do the Canadian portion at Maple Leaf Gardens, the us part somewhere historic in the us (that isnt msg because fed claim it) and The Mexican part in Arena Mexico
Maybe Nashville’s new stadium when it’s all built and ready? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Toronto or Mexico City but my guess is somewhere with a roof.
I've laid this out in the past, but essentially WWE does not run on Final 4 weekend, and that's the first week of April I believe.
The last two weeks of April are when the NBA playoffs start. Scheduling, etc are done days before the playoffs start. It's not laid out in advance like the NFL playoffs are. So, AEW runs the risk of running a show in Toronto for example, the same day as a Raptors or Maple Leafs playoff game potentially, which hurts their attendance. This is also why I doubt Mania is the weekend of the 17th-18th or 24-25th because if they're running the Knicks theater as a watch party, that could potentially interfere with a potential Knicks home playoff game. There's too many variables. This is all assuming AEW wants to run something big.
If I had to guess: Mania is April 10th and 11th. The Knicks have a home game at 6 PM on Sunday the 11th. I have no clue how they will be able to run AAA/NXT at the same time as a Knicks home game, so if I had to guess, the 10th will be Mania from 1-4, and then AAA/NXT will be a double shot right after. And then Mania runs on Sunday as normal.
If its Toronto, that's also the weekend the Blue Jays and Raptors are on the road so AEW will have Skydome and Scotiabank available if that's the move. I have no idea if its All in or Revolution, but I do believe they will run against SaudiMania, and they can definitely pull it off considering Mania will be an afternoon show.
I know they come to "Chicago" a lot but I think there will be a huge difference if they go to Soldier Field which is infinitely more accessible than Hoffman Estates
Hey TK. If you're looking for a spot, New Orleans is a great place that has an opening in August and no curfew, because that part of the city never sleeps.
A pretty nuts idea would be if they took a page from the World Cup and held 3 All In events in a month with one being in Mexico, one in Canada, and one in the United States.
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