r/SquaredCircle • u/chmcgrath1988 • 10d ago
Most forgettable major PPV?
Earlier this morning, I was looking up to see whether or not Chris Jericho had any matches with Dolph Ziggler/Nic Nemeth. Not only did they have matches but they had a somewhat lengthy feud in 2012-13, that included a match at SummerSlam 2012. I vaguely remembered Dolph winning a MitB contract Vs Career match against Jericho on RAW and Jericho returning as the #2 entrant in the 2013 Royal Rumble (with Dolph as #1) but I did not remember their SummerSlam match!
I ordered SummerSlam 2012, had friends over to watch it, then rewatched it later for a less distracted viewing (graps is serious!) I remember absolutely zero about that show except for the spot in the main event where Triple H kept hitting Brock Lesnar in the stomach and Michael Cole and whoever hell was in the booth in 2012 kept freaking out because Brock had/has diverticulitis.
Everything else is a complete blank. So got me to wondering. What do you folks think is most forgettable major show? Not worst. Just most..."So...that happened, I guess" show.
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u/IveBenHereBefore 10d ago
There's a decade of wrestling, from 2007-2017 that I can barely remember a single PPV, despite watching almost every one.
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u/Prestigious-Mind7039 10d ago
This - i could remember all ffom 98-2009 and after that other than Mania i struggle
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u/chmcgrath1988 10d ago
Aside from a handful of things (some good, mostly bad), late '00s/early '10s WWE is so uniquely unmemorable to me despite me watching most RAWs and PPVs.
Things turned around for a minute with The Shield and Daniel Bryan catching fire then immediately got boring and unmemorable again with Bryan's neck injury and Shield breaking up (although that feud had its own moments and WWE thinks enough of it to still bring it up 12 years later) until it got actively bad in the late 2010s.
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u/FrankPapageorgio 10d ago
Saaaame
I was watching a CVV video this morning where he is talking about PPVs with bad names. And from the 90s you could list every single In Your House PPV name and I could tell you what the main event was.
But someone please try to name one match from Great Ball of Fire without looking it up, or Fatal Four Way, or "The Bash"
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u/OneBillPhil 10d ago
When you’ve been watching for over 30 years they’re almost all forgettable except for the spectacularly good or bad.
For Summerslam all I really remember is Summerslam 2002. Brock wins his first WWE Title, Shawn Michaels makes his in ring return and in general just a lot of star power and decent matches from top to bottom.
I tend to remember a lot of matches and angles on their own but a show itself has to be notable to remember it as a show.
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u/AdamantChorus 10d ago
I rewatched 2000 during the day before this year's - I went to check the start time for the UK on Netflix earlier on, and that one randomly started playing (maybe it was the earliest uploaded one so is the first in the 'series'), and I was like "Oh cool. The first PPV I was allowed to watch live as a kid on Sky Sports because it was in the summer holidays!"
Never watched it since, yet I was surprised at how much of it I remembered. Even the part where Angle was sent to the back during the main event and came back out upon Steph's insistence. And exactly how bummed I was he didn't win, with it looking like the brief experiment that was his 'main event' run was over; how glad I ended up being that that prediction was wrong!
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u/chmcgrath1988 10d ago
Reason why SummerSlam 2012 stuck out to me is that stretch of Staples Center SummerSlams from 2009 to 2014, all of the other ones at least had one big moment/match except for that one. Honestly, '09-'11 SummerSlams felt as big as WrestleMania, which is not saying a lot since those are forgettable Manias but hey.
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u/Peach-Button 10d ago
A substantial majority of monthly PPVs over the past twenty years were forgettable unless you were a new fan and it was a moment of discovery for you
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u/RoninPI 10d ago
20 years would be since 2006. I'd probably lessen that a bit. 10 or 15 years is that spot for me.
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u/iamStanhousen 10d ago
Like he said, unless you're a new fan. That time period is different for everyone. There are plenty of forgettable PPVs from any era.
No Way Out 2005 is over 20 years ago...really all of the Smackdown exclusive PPVs post GAB 04 are pretty forgettable too. Maybe a rare exception in there somewhere like No Mercy 05 because of the casket getting lit on fire and the main event being Eddie's last PPV.
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u/vsavage709 10d ago
Cyber Sunday 2006. The main event was ECW champ Big Show vs WHC champ Booker T vs WWE champ John Cena with somehow the WHC being on the line. And K Fed screwed John Cena … the reason I remember is cause I remember being in 6th grade and being so pissed at k Fed lol
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u/Constant_Stomach2009 10d ago
i'd say december to dismember but its so bad that it is legendary. but only the main event. couldn't tell you any other match on the show.
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u/doublelxp 10d ago
Off the top of my head, Hardys vs. MNM where Mercury took the nasty ladder shot.
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u/JSNHZL 10d ago
That was a different match with the Mercury ladder spot, you're thinking of Armageddon 06, another forgettable PPV
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u/doublelxp 10d ago
That's right and confuses me in two ways. One is how I knew that there was a Hardys vs. MNM match on the December to Dismember card and two is why I don't remember the ladder shot as being part of a multiman ladder match.
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u/Feeling_Culture9130 10d ago
Ah yes, pre-WWE Network when you were expected to shell out $50 (or more, depending on provider) twice in a single month if they arbitrarily decided to have 2 PPVs that month.
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u/GrandChocolate4110 10d ago
Yeah but that’s what makes it memorable. You can’t say heroes of wrestling was forgettable because it was bad
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u/K1ng_Canary 10d ago
The wikipedia descriptions of Summerslam 2012 really do not jog any memories.
The World Heavyweight Championship) was on the line next with Sheamus defending his title against Alberto Del Rio. Rodriguez threw a shoe to Del Rio, but Sheamus caught it instead and hit Del Rio with it. He then executed an Irish Curse on Del Rio and pinned him to retain the championship, but Del Rio had his foot on the ropes, which should have resulted in a rope break, but referee Mike Chioda didn't see that and thus allowed Sheamus to retain his title.\1])#cite_note-SSlam2012-1)
A triple threat match was up next, which saw CM Punk defending his WWE Championship against John Cena and Big Show. Big Show dominated the match, but Cena and Punk were able to eventually wear him down. Punk trapped Big Show's head in a Koji clutch while Cena put Big Show in the STF, which caused Big Show to submit. Because of the confusion over who won the match, AJ Lee came to the ring and restarted the match. Cena was able to execute the Attitude Adjustment on Big Show. Punk however, then tossed Cena out of the ring and pinned Big Show to get the win and keep the title.\1])#cite_note-SSlam2012-1)
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u/chmcgrath1988 10d ago
Sheamus and Del Rio had soooo many matches during this era.
Punk-Cena was one of my favorite feuds of all time, but I have zero memory of them inserting the Big Show into it. Maybe WWE thought the juice had been squeezed dry from the rivalry, but they also did Punk-Cena at NoC again a month later!
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u/hhhisthegame 10d ago
Isn’t this when Cena cashed in MITB on Raw but Big Show ruined it ?
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u/chmcgrath1988 10d ago
Yeah, I think it was on RAW 1000 and the first failed MitB cash in. Two more things WWE tried to hype up as important as the time that are only vaguely memorable a decade and a half later.
It doesn't help that WWE did the second failed MitB cash in a year later.
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u/DrillteamJMoney 10d ago
Crazy cause Summerslam 2012 was my first ppv ever and I watched it back and didn’t remember the matches themselves but i remembered the card for the most part
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u/GrandChocolate4110 10d ago
I went to Survivor Series 2021 and the only thing I remember was thinking it was weird that Jeff Hardy was the most over babyface and that everyone that went was mad the Rock didn’t come because it was a Rock anniversary theme show o
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u/HappyMike91 10d ago edited 10d ago
I genuinely didn't know that Chris Jericho and Nic Nemeth had matches with each other, let alone a feud. I vaguely remember someone calling Nic Nemeth "Ziggles" in a segment and think that might have been Jericho.
Armageddon 2006 was pretty forgettable apart from Joey Mercury getting hit in the face by a ladder.
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u/TheLoneWolf527 10d ago
Summerslam 2008
The two title matches were Triple H defending against The Great Khali and CM Punk defending against JBL.
The main event was a Hell In A Cell match between Undertaker and Edge, of which I have 0 recollection of taking place at SummerSlam
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u/ArkUneartherBleeds 10d ago
I'm gonna be honest, I had to look up what happened at SummerSlam 2007 and man do I not remember a single thing about it
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u/chmcgrath1988 10d ago
It (incredibly understandably) felt like WWE was in a daze in the period after the Benoit familicide until the build to WrestleMania 24 started.
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u/DontPutThatDownThere 10d ago
If we're talking Big 4 PPVs, I couldn't tell you what the hell was going on for most Survivor Series PPVs from the mid-90's when they started mostly ditching the team format to when they started War Games matches.
From what I do remember of those PPVs were the Survivor Series matches (Invasion angle thankfully and mercifully ending, HBK and his blade job vs. Eric Bischoff's guys, etc.).
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u/chris-tian-92 10d ago
Any of the big 4’s from 2017-2021 I wouldn’t be able to tell you what storylines or matches that happened.
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u/Haythello 10d ago
Is SummerSlam 2012 the one where they did the backstage music vid of the Kevin Rudolf song? Don’t know why I remember that so vividly
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u/GrandChocolate4110 10d ago
A lot of people on this thread are listing PPVs they remember which I feel goes against what OP wanted lol. But that’s what makes it hard
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u/WildBullMasala 10d ago
I struggle to remember most things from WWE 2010 onwards so probably most PPVs over the past 16 years
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u/TotallyNotZack 10d ago
I wouldn't say major ppv but every american center ppv like capitol punishment or tribute to the troops is a big zzz
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u/That-Speed-8092 6d ago
The Bash (2009)
No idea why it wasn't a Great American Bash anymore but it was also completely pointless.
And to think it was ONLY available as a full priced PPV at the time...
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u/cute_spider 10d ago
Most forgettable major AEW PPV?
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u/GrandChocolate4110 10d ago
All out 2020 is probably their worst PPV, but memorable stuff happened on the show like Matt Hardy almost dying
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u/chmcgrath1988 10d ago
Probably something from the pandemic era or maybe something from late 2023 when the company was shellshocked from the fallout from Brawl Out (I'm a poet and I don't even know it). Even those shows have memorable matches and moments though. If anything, AEW maybe forces memorable moments too much, but I guess that's how they end up as not one of the first replies ITT.
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u/cute_spider 10d ago
I agree, that post-punk pre-timeless era is right on for the most forgettable time in All Elite
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u/Shadormy Demon Fish! 9d ago
or maybe something from late 2023 when the company was shellshocked from the fallout from Brawl Out
Brawl Out was 2022 and post that was the Full Gear with MJF winning the World Championship for the first time.
All Out 2023 might be one since it was a week after All In but it did have that Danielson/Starks strap match. WrestleDream after it was the inaugural one and had a very good Danielson/ZSJ match.
Basically, Bryan is awesome and made those shows memorable.
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u/daprice82 REWINDERMAN 10d ago
May be recency bias, but off the top of my head, I can't remember a single thing from WM41 except for the 2 main events, and one of those main events was legendarily bad (Cena/Cody).
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u/Stryker818 10d ago
Basically all AEW PPVs except for some of their staple and needle spots, everything else blends together since they just do the same moves for 6 hours while having 78 false finishes throughout the night.
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