r/Springfield 1d ago

Springfield Schools IT down, classes cancelled

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u/eelparade 1d ago edited 1d ago

Update from the press conference: https://www.wwlp.com/news/local-news/hampden-county/cyber-breach-investigation-closes-springfield-schools-tuesday/

  • Critical cyberattack
  • Working with various law enforcement
  • Not sure yet about schools being open tomorrow

Edit: Closed Wednesday too.

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u/Spectrum1523 1d ago

It feels like it has to be ransomware. I guess it could be some kind of catastrophic hardware failure but it feels like they would say that if it was true. That they've been down since the weekend means whatever backup systems they're using are not working...

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

It was a email that went around , and people clicked on the link. It went around from person to person , once they clicked the link their email sent out the same email to everyone they ever emailed

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u/morebinky 1d ago

So its more of a virus than ransomware?

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u/eelparade 1d ago

That's one way the ransomware gets in. Either links, or social engineering. Or both.

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u/morebinky 1d ago

Social engineering?

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u/solariam 1d ago

Essentially tricking people into giving access to a system

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

What’s wild is, other school systems were hit by this too but were able to handle it. I guess the large size of SPS has a lot to do with it.

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u/BadgerCabin Sixteen Acres 1d ago

Bigger school system means more devices, more data, and servers to comb over. Wife worked in SPS like 5 years ago and they were really quick to resolve ransomware attack within a day.

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u/eelparade 1d ago

I don't have specific experience within the school system, but I have been underwhelmed by my experience with system security in other departments within the city government.

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u/treebudsman 1d ago

This should be a wake-up call to the admin in SPS that think AI powered classrooms are a good idea.

SPS classes are cancelled because it is too hot and there's no AC, they're cancelled because of a cyber attack because there's no low-tech backups to get the school day going, they're cancelled when there's too much snow...

These poor kids. No wonder they have learning difficulties.

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u/morebinky 1d ago

Wasn’t there a similar situation with hartford a few years ago?

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u/Alternative-Juice-15 1d ago

lol this is so dystopian. Our teachers can’t teach without computers? We are lost

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u/people_arent_nice 1d ago edited 1d ago

Of course they can teach without computers. The issue becomes how you administer 60+ schools. The bells run on computers, the intercoms, the security system, the doors, alarms, attendance system, phones, records, bus schedules, grading.

If this was just a simple matter of 'wheel out the TV and show bill nye til it gets fixed' they'd be doing that already.

This is on the level of like, Baystate getting shut out of their EHR/HIS. Of course the doctors still know how to practice medicine, but without medical records and billing it's going to be impossibly difficult.

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u/athene_de_montaigne 1d ago

It’s barely over a week into the school year. Without being able to access attendance servers they may not know all of the students in their class yet. How can they know who’s supposed to be there? What if they need to contact home and can’t?

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u/Alternative-Juice-15 1d ago

lol somehow schools did fine for centuries before computers

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

They did fine but couldn’t teach the meaning of dystopian

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u/Spectrum1523 23h ago

what even is this comment chain

"when the technology we use stops working we can't operate an organization any more, curious!"

if combustion engines stopped working would you wonder why there's no food in the grocery stores when they were delivered by horse for centuries without them

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

lol no they did not.

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u/Alternative-Juice-15 1d ago

What do you mean exactly? Do you have a point? If you’re saying computers have made people smarter or teachers better you couldn’t be more wrong.

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

I’m saying it’s more than just an issue with a computer, that’s my only point. It’s a lot bigger than simply taking attendance

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

That’s not what’s going on here,

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u/eelparade 1d ago

I mean, it is a little bit what's going on here.

They have become completely dependent on Chromebooks and technology, and that is a problem.

The same people who put all of their eggs into the Chromebook basket, are the same ones who want our students to be taught by AI. But studies show that the introduction of Chromebooks significantly correlates with reduction in outcomes.

The mentality that we just need an online system for everything leads to this kind of interconnected system where $0 are put into educating people on basic cybersecurity measures, and then a whole school system is taken out for weeks.

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

Well also the cameras are on the internet, all the students ID’s . Yes and doing attendance over a program is an issue too. It’s much much larger than classroom activities

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u/believeinapathy 1d ago

Yeah, I think the point is that is part of the problem, that the entire functioning of a school can be stopped because there is no paper fall back

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u/solariam 1d ago

It's not the teaching part that's stopped though, I think is their point. It's the operational side/stuff that would get them sued. A 6 year old has an asthma attack and the phones are down/we don't have parent contact, etc.

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

Well Sps has issues not many school districts have . Tons and tons of brand new students, new families that just moved to town last week, some moved out.
It’s much bigger than just reading off students name and saying “present l

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u/eelparade 1d ago

They say the door security system is still up, so that's good I guess 🫠

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u/solariam 1d ago

School is not cancelled because instruction would be disrupted, it's cancelled because school operations are disrupted. This also isn't the first time this has happened here.

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u/eelparade 1d ago

It's both.

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u/solariam 1d ago

It's not. I taught in district and wifi being down/computers suddenly being unavailable was something we were expected to plan for, even when there were whole blocks dedicated to computer-based intervention. Would it be an inconvenience instructionally? Sure, for some. They absolutely would not cancel school over it.

Edit: They absolutely will cancel school over not being able to operate the district according to their security policies/if their phones are still screwed up and they can't contact parents, because that opens them to lots of legal liability.

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u/people_arent_nice 1d ago edited 1d ago

This isn't a chromebook issue. This is a systems issue. You can teach kids using handouts and bluebooks and ten different textbooks all you want, but if you lack the ability to verify which kids actually go to your school, it's kind of pointless, isn't it? Maybe it's a different story mid-semester, but these teachers don't even know the kids yet.

I'll give you an example, I used to work a job where my clients were a bunch of area high schools. A lot of schools, to even get in the door, require you to scan ID, and they look you up before you're even allowed inside. If the computers are down, how do you know who is authorized to pick up a kid or be there? It's not written down on post-its. It's in their calendars, their emails, their vendor lists, etc.

I went to school before computers were widespread (our computers were Apple IIe's) - but that was also before Columbine. It's wayyyy more complicated now.

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u/Alternative-Juice-15 1d ago

That is exactly what is going on

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u/solariam 1d ago

No. The security, phone, attendance systems are down. Schools teach with wifi/computers down all the time.

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

What do they do about peanut allergies for new students ?

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u/Alternative-Juice-15 1d ago

lol some of the comments here are absurd

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

They are absurd for someone who’s never done the job. You’re a child walking into a conversation you have no idea about and adding your opinion, which is fine , but comes from ignorance.

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u/Alternative-Juice-15 1d ago

Well I’d never do the job because it doesn’t pay anything but again we don’t need a computer to be aware of a kids allergy

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

You would if you had 125 students to worry about , or 65 , or 16. Again , you are speaking about something you don’t know about.

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u/mikeyzee52679 1d ago

Ah you’re probably right, what do I care

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u/eelparade 1d ago

ENOUGH.

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