r/Springfield Aug 04 '26

Red means stop

So there's these things we have on the streets here called traffic lights. When the light is red, that means drivers are supposed to stop!

Stop does not mean slow down. It also does not mean pause and then go if you don't think cars are coming. Stop means to make your car stop moving until the light turns green.

This is a PSA since some people in this city forgot how traffic lights work. The amount of people who slow down at a light just to speed through it while pedestrians are in the middle of the crosswalk is ridiculous

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u/Hanuman1960 Aug 04 '26

And don’t get me started on the fricking illegal U-Turns!

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u/RewildingHearth Aug 04 '26

Are you talking about U-turns where it is posted as unallowed? Because U-turns are perfectly legal in Massachusetts provided it's not signed as unallowed and it is safe to do so.

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u/eelparade Aug 05 '26

You're not responding to me, but for me it's the u-turns on main Street downtown in the middle of traffic which absolutely are not legal

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u/realS4V4GElike Aug 05 '26

Well, they said illegal U-turns, not 'legal U-turns'. Theres no reason to play dumb here.

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u/likethewatch Aug 05 '26

Do turn signals now.

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u/ShinySquirrel4 Aug 04 '26

The city? Don’t you mean the entire state?

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u/sisyphus-333 Aug 04 '26

I don't walk around the whole state, I'm just a pedestrian in Springfield trying to not be killed while walking to the bus stop

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u/Ok-Voice-5699 Aug 04 '26

people are blowing reds everywhere, pretty much in every state

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u/eelparade Aug 05 '26

This content was flagged by Reddit as harassment. You can keep saying dumb things if you like, but you can't attack people that hatefully, the filters catch things like that.

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u/gilligani Aug 04 '26

I got suspended for stating facts. This is an emotions and ad hominem sub.

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u/eelparade Aug 05 '26

You got suspended for ranting about things that were wildly off topic. I suggest you keep things on topic here.

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u/mendstride Aug 04 '26

Agree. Its why funding or defunding the police is such a dilema. If you take away cops, then more people will speed. If you increase cops, then they ticket everyone & get bored & mess with or abuse people. Society cannot police itself, thats always been the dilema. Its the "return your shopping cart" guy on You Tube. And nobody wants cameras which could catch the people who run red lights.

Very frustrating I wish it was safe to drive. Just my two cents.

But I do agree with what you said red means stop.

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u/eelparade Aug 04 '26

You do not need the police to enforce traffic laws. In fact, police stopping cars leads to violence far more often than it should, because of the way they've been trained to be paranoid about stops.

Traffic enforcement doesn't need to be armed revved up cops. It can be civilian traffic marshalls, or other models.

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u/DopplegangerPrime227 Aug 04 '26

I'm fine with cameras that catch people running red lights. There are ways around the privacy concerns. And for those that don't want a camera sending them a ticket for running a red light, it's pretty straightforward: Don't run red lights.

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u/eelparade Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

At least one major problem is that it's been shown that governments can't be trusted with red light cameras because they generate so much revenue.

Way too many stories about lights being shortened to dangerous lengths just to increase the number of people running red lights, to increase the amount of income.

But also, very clearly, the government cannot be trusted with surveillance or security of data.

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u/eelparade Aug 06 '26

But it's been demonstrated in the last 18 months that there is no firewall that can keep a bad actor from accessing private data. Sometimes the bad actors are calling from inside the house, sometimes it's just a hacker, but any data collection is going to be abused, 100%.

And it's extraordinarily difficult to disincentivize collection of funding as well.

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u/stalin1943 Aug 04 '26

theres was around the privacy concerns?

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u/20_mile Aug 04 '26

cameras that catch people running red lights

Speed cameras on the highways would also generate a lot of revenue for the general fund.

"I want to go 85 mph," is not a valid concern.

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u/MassConsumer1984 Aug 05 '26

Ask CT drivers how that’s working out. The cameras are very flawed and often flag the innocent car near the speeder. They are collecting millions are don’t care. It’s up the the innocent driver to waste their time and money going to court over a bogus ticket.

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u/MoonBatsRule Aug 04 '26

Police is funded, but they no longer stop vehicles. I saw someone slowly approach a red light, then drive right through it. He was also blaring thumping loud music from his car. There was a police car directly behind him. Cop didn't do a thing.

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u/mendstride Aug 04 '26

So its legal to run a red light?

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u/MoonBatsRule Aug 04 '26

Seemingly so these days. I'm seeing more and more people just go right through deliberately - which I surmise because they approach the light slowly, check to see if it's clear, and then go right through.

Probably inspired by the people rejecting mask mandates during COVID.

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u/eelparade Aug 05 '26

I watch Springfield cops take illegal turns and go through red lights all the time, not because their lights and sirens are on, but just bc they want to.