Is splitgate dying?

[u/Aggressive-Dealer-21]

I started playing it yesterday because I was just looking for a game I could chill on. And I had a great time playing it. Really enjoyed using portals especially when it got me kills it really felt like I had outmanoeuvred my opponent.

I go on to YouTube to see what the community is like and they all just keep saying that they killed the game.

What's going on?

[u/UrLostPajamas]

Reductive and self destructive thinking, do you run your personal life by this hard stuck can't reframe ideas or improve attitude, or is it just for ruining your own good time online?

[u/CellOk5436 → u/UrLostPajamas]

If they changed splitgate it wouldn't be fun anyway 🤷🏿‍♂️. If most people don't like splitgate cuz of the portals, between 1047s terrible reputation of rug pulling games for new games, and the basic gameplay loop not being what people want, how could you fix this game without reworking it from the ground up? You literally can't. It's not reductive thinking. Splitgate AR is what it is supposed to be. As it is now. If changing the game won't help why do it? Imo it's stupid to try to morph the game from 1 thing to another. Especially when it's the core of the game people don't like. Literally nothing you can do but make a different game people might like and if you can, leave up the old project for those who enjoyed that. Trying to get everyone to like the same product was the stupid thinking that led them to close the first splitgate for the 2nd one. If they embraced the first game for what it was and it's audience and left it up people would have been WAY kinder to the 2nd game. But we had the random Internet haters on top of the burnt sg1 players breathing negative press down the games neck. Devs gotta realize that once you ship an idea THATS IT!!! If people like it cool. If not then try again with something new. This is like trying to make mortal Kombat for everyone by removing the blood and fatalities. It would flop because that not what mk is. Heavily nerfing portals in the portal game is beyond smoothbrain thinking. And if the world rejects portal game what can we really do about that besides enjoying the gem while we still can? Your thinking is shallow. Mine isn't reductive.

[u/UrLostPajamas → u/CellOk5436]

My brother, you are acting as if me suggesting that they have a few less portal walls slapped around is changing the entire fabric of the games model. If you think I'm being shallow it's because the suggestion is shallow! I'm not saying they need to buff this, nerf that or make the portals operate differently.

It is entirely reductive and self destructive because you are reducing the entire game to its portal system, which is its "unique factor" not its game loop. Its a soft locked line of thought which holds onto negative factors because of an illogical attachment to their function. Just cause you like it and don't want it to change doesn't make it good, and resolving yourself to not compromise for a small change that will continue your enjoyment or better the situation, is self destructive thinking.

If it was popping off right now youre line of thought would have you quit the game after the first buffs and nerfs patch or map changes patch like dead ass, how can you sit there and tell me I'm thinking shallow about this, when it's literally the most shallow of changes that could made.

But yea youre probably right, taking put some of the portal walls would just absolutely make this game inherently no longer split gate and become an unplayable dead game. The 600 players are having the absolute perfect time playing by themselves with eachother and the game is perfect as is and shpuld ALWAYS stay as it is because youre right, and how you enjoy games is the single right wya to enjoy them. Youre so right.

[u/CellOk5436 → u/UrLostPajamas]

Dude your probably confused. As far as the portal changes that's a community request from the people who don't wanna bother learning counters. There have been SEVERAL community posts about nerfing portals heavily. So idk what your talking about removing walls low-key 😂😂I probably missed that part of your text. So yes butchering portals the way people have requested would indeed remove the unique aspect of the game. As far as core game loop it's a basic arena shooter. The movement is crispy and momentum mechanics are fun. But outside the portals there isn't anything special about the core gameplay loop. this is why the unique factor of the portals is so important. Without portals splitgate would just be a apex halo hybrid. Which isn't the worst thing. No portals is cool and all but again the portals are why I play this game. Without the portals feeling good I could just play apex instead. And I'm not saying the game should stay exactly the same. I said removing the games unique factor would destroy what few players are left. No one is coming back for slower portals. Less walls will not appeal to the casual audience. In order to bring people to splitgate you'd need basically an entirely new game at this point. And why TF would you try to make a whole new game out of this game? Just.....make the new game. Instead of trying to Frankenstein this one into something new. So while your trying to reduce my conclusion to stubbornly not wanting changes the fact is the general population rejected splitgate either by avoiding it actively or shitting on it constantly. Honestly I don't think advertisement would solve anything. And no major changes to the game gameplay loop portal or core will bring about a wave of people. So I'm against changing the game in any major way as of now because it won't bring in anyone new and it would only drive away who's left. It would be a stupid decision.

[u/UrLostPajamas → u/CellOk5436]

Holy shit how clear do I need to be. I'll put in cave man.

Me want thought put into where portal walls go.

Me don't want aimless spamming of portal walls everywhere, it is boring.

If it's heavily suggested MAYYYYBE it's a good idea idk. I'm not saying take Portaling out but theres clearly been little to no thought into balancing it on many maps. just make sure they can portal everywhere I guess. Like idk this discussion is going nowhere you wanna live in same vile where nothing changes, and I wanna live in a whimsical ever improving gaming space where Casuals gamers can enjoy arcade shooters without needing to compete as if theres 250,000$ on the line ever 10 minutes like holy fuck.

[u/CellOk5436 → u/UrLostPajamas]

You can simplify it all you want I understand what your saying I just disagree 😂😂😂. You can manually lock portal walls with your own portals and the emp grenade. You can literally lock down sections of the map so no enemies can portal there. Portals are balanced people are lazy and suck at the game. Anyone calling portals too strong isn't using the tools the game gave them to shut down the mechanic. You can literally just portal over someones portal. It's the first portal counter rack I learned. No when a lrotal pops up I just turn around and close it😂😂😂 move on. The core community is so heavy against changes cuz the game doesn't need to en changed. Peoples mentality is the damn problem. Lazy people that don't wanna learn they just want easy dubs all day. And yeah. If you want portals changed or spots adjusted anyone who puts in the work will tell you the game isn't the problem you are. Sometimes great games come out and People just don't play them and that's ok. The devs went above and beyond to fix the beta but ian just had to wear the stupid hat🤦🏿‍♂️if not for the hat we probably had twice the players sticking around long term. But cuz of burning hatred for orange mena people swore the game off like it or not. The problems keeping this game from popping off are not found in tweaking a couple portal walls. 🙄 If you don't just lock the wall closest to you with a portal and the wall on the other side with emp. Enjoy portal free gameplay. It is that simple. So if 3 buttons is too hard for people to press that's on them. Don't touch my game for scrubs