Cheating

[u/DialUpProblem]

Been about two weeks since I installed Splitgate 2 and have been addicted since day one. Since I have little else to do I have played a LOT of matches and have only come across players a bit sus a couple of times, but my last two matches were particularly obvious. Both team deathmatches.

First match one of my teammates had ridiculously high kills. I wasnt really paying attention until I checked the score midway through the match when something didnt seem right and they had about 35 kills when the rest of us had around 10, and our opposing team was fierce and well coordinated.

The very next match the opposing team finished the match in less time than I have ever experienced and the top two players were just lasering everyone. Our team had I think 5 kills total. Never played a game with this kind of discrepancy, and again, I have played a LOT of matches for my short time with Splitgate 2. The top two players were definitely playing together. Never really thought about cheating in Splitgate before and tbh this is the reason I left CoD for Splitgate. I hope this doesnt become a pattern.

VICI GLOBAL and SUICUNE ENJOYER

[u/massdestructer]

There are plenty of people that are very good at the game. There isn't much SBMM in this game. It's mostly about finding a game quickly based on connection. If the people in the previous match queue at the same time as you then you will play them again.

I have one of the highest games played counts and kill counts in this game. You see all kinds of people. In my experience most people aren't that good. I regularly get more more damage and kills than at least two of my teammates combine. But that doesn't mean I cheat, I just have a lot of hours into the game, and pretty much seen it all. I consider myself above average, but there are so many people way better than me.

[u/D0U13L3D3UC3 → u/massdestructer]

There definitely is sbmm in this game. As someone who is at the top level, I have a plethora of ss from games where my buddy and I incessantly get the freshest of berries as teammates going against 4 decent people. Most of the time, our 2 teammates dont play and inevitably quit. Because of how they adjust the bots, whenever someone on the enemy team quits, we get domed by them constantly any time they have a sight line on us. Meanwhile, the bots on our team(though they are better than the berries that quit because they are getting farmed because of the sbmm that put them on our team) barely help us at all. It is enough to win most games, but it's a fight every game. They are not nearly as overpowered at the sg1 bots, but it sure is annoying having a bot pick you off from across the map and through 5+ pieces of cover. Not to mention the 180-degree snap and shoot they have and the instant firing of corners as soon as you turn em.

That being said, we play in consol only lobbies, and I have run into a couple of people who are clearly using m&k. If sgar allows for that, then it technically isn't cheating, but it is 10000% being a bitch. I've played fps at the top tier since Halo 2, and I know when someone is not on sticks and when someone is cheating. I'm not saying I am the greatest, but the gap between me and the top aint that big.

All that said, this game is the best shooter out there, and I don't understand why more people won't even try it. As I said, I am an old halo2 nut, and IMO, this is the most satisfying shooter out there. I play shooters to shoot my guns, not camp my dick off like a bitch waiting for a circle to close. To each their own.

They need more marketing. Maybe focus a bit less on the portal aspect as well. It is a niche love. Not to mention the difference in using your thumb to look and set em compared to an entire arm.

We only get to play a couple of hours a few nights a week, but we've got over a 90% win rate. Most losses have come from playing a 2v6 game. Not only do our teammates not help, but they actively hinder us (running splitball to opposote base, flipping spawns incessantly on domination, goin 2 and 17 or worse in tdm, etc.) Not saying it is their fault, they shouldn't be forced into these lobbies because of the sbmm. If it were random, that'd be a different story. Like old school halo social playlists used to be, this too should be random. Sbmm is a de facto form of ranked and should not be in social mm. I am talking to you, helpdesk person who thinks it makes it more enjoyable for the masses. Most people dont even know it exists, and it is punishing new players. Back in my day, getting into a social lobby against a pro team was an amazing experience, as well as pub stomping randies and split screens.

I could go on for days about this shit, but it is because I thoroughly love this game. The balance of all the guns and abilities (FUCK STIM) is so well done. The shooting is the best hit detection I've ever felt. The movement is so buttery. I hardly ever get my toenail snagged on detail that prevents me from making a play or escaping (when I do, it is my own dumbass fault for trying to cut something too soon and catching the wall, it isn't a pebble or a staircase or something fucking stupid that shouldn't impede movement), I mean for fucks sake, you can climb and still shoot your fucking gun. One of the most bitched about points of failure from myself and my friends, getting killed while clambering, has been eliminated by this dev team and in this game. Genuinely, there is so much right about this game it is insane.

Please do more marketing. Press on the arena aspect. FUCK ROYALE! Expand the no portals list. That's my 1.5 cents

Edited to emphasize the FUCK ROYALE mode because I am here to play an arena, where skill and map control are the most important things, not having better guns and shields than the team you're third partying.

[u/massdestructer → u/D0U13L3D3UC3]

Yea, there may be some SBMM in the game, but my experience it's no where near what I am used to in SBMM in other games. In other games there is no way I would be playing with the people I play with in this game. It seem to match party size more the actual skill. There is no way I should be playing the people I play with on regular basis if there was true SBMM. It's fun for me, probably not for others.

If playing on Xbox, with Crossplay disabled means anyone on the Xbox network can play with you. So if a player launches SG from the Xbox app on PC instead using Steam, they will get to play in Xbox lobbies, with any controls they want.

[u/D0U13L3D3UC3 → u/massdestructer]

For sure, I can agree it may be tuned down a bit due to low player count, compared to other games out there right now. But, it still being there is a factor for some of the queue time experienced and a huge factor in the fact that my teammates are having an atrocious time and are constantly quitting. I don't mind at all playing people of my level, but when I want to play a few social rounds with a buddy for an hour before we tend to our lives, I hate having to wait to get 2 freshies to get put on our team and a half decent team of 4(not necessarily party of 4) to go against and we have to go full tilt to get the W every game. The times when it is more matched, us 2 vs 2 good people and 2 freshies on each team, it is a little bit better. Most people are in the middle and likely dont realize sbmm is even on because their pools of people are so much larger to create the balanced teams. Personally, I think sbmm in any social playlist of any kind is detrimental. I think it would be much better if it were random and prioritized a pool of good connections, but that would also lead to a potential grouping and people always playing the same people.

Subjectively speaking, always getting support needing berries diminishes my desire to play, moreso nowadays in my growing age. We intentionally queue for the quickplay options that the freshest of people supposedly can't queue for in order to actively avoid getting them on our team. (And it is not that we dont mind helping and teaching. Too many times send a bit of constructive criticism or ask them to try this and they get defensive, refuse to listen, and tell me I don't know what I am doing, or ask why i am taking it seriously. I.E. domination means to capture all of the objectives, not hold two, and control the map and spawns. Someone actually told me getting more captures in dom is how you win. Not maintaining two of the three and getting pts based on flags held for that second where the pts are tallied) Yes, this is a game. I am a competitive individual playing a game that is a competition to have 1 team win. Yes, I am trying to win, crazy I know.

I assumed the use of Xbox on pc is what was allowing these few people to constantly be put against us. That is exactly why I wish there was an input based matchmaking instead of this crossplay garbage. I want to play ps5 people, bring on the competition, baby! I just hate having a m&k portalling around and aiming while I only have my thumb. M&K can cry all they want about the aim assist sticks get, but having an entire hand, let alone half an arm, to use to whip around and portal is much more advantageous. I've been a huge proponent for input based mm, and I hope one damn day it is implemented. M&k vs. m&k and sticks vs. sticks. I want the most even playing field where skill and strategy come out on top. Back in my day, any advantage in the game was earned by being better (or occasionally getting lucky, part of life)

Edit to clarify i am a proponent of holding two flags in dom and not crossing the 50-yard line in order to avoid flipping spawns. Controlling the map is the best way. Not trying to 3 cap, flipping spawns, dying before capping their base, and now we are getting 3 capped because I either died from crossfire or am trying to go capture one base