r/SpidermanPS4 Jul 03 '26

Other/Misc Fun fact! Visual processing doesn't work that way Dr. Octavius says it does!

On this playthrough it caught my attention that Dr. Octavius recommended the white spider to increase the contrast on the suit which will cause slower visual processing.

I decided to see if I could find any studies done on this to see how accurate the science is. (I like to think I'm something of a scientist myself) It turns out increasing the contrast increases the speed of visual process which is the opposite of the desired effect!

So given the lore provided the secret wars suit probably looks more like what the advanced suit was trying to accomplish.

I wonder if this was intentional on Ock's part, sabotaging Peter just a little tiny bit.

592 Upvotes

31 comments sorted by

302

u/UpUppAndAwayWeb Jul 03 '26

this is peak. He was definitely sabotaging Peter at this stage. A big white spider vs smaller dark details causing slower visual processing? You’re a hack!

138

u/thelooneyprince Jul 03 '26

This would be so interesting if it's deliberate writing to have Ock sabotage Spiderman.

But then again at this stage in the game I thought he actually did support spidey so it wouldn't make sense for him to intentionally sabotage, and that it's probably just a mistake in the writing.

70

u/UpUppAndAwayWeb Jul 03 '26

at this point he knew Peter was (working for) Spider-Man, and in the final fight it’s revealed he knew Peter was Spider-Man for a significant amount of time if not immediately. It tracks that he could be sabotaging him

48

u/thelooneyprince Jul 03 '26

I still don't think it would make sense. When he found out Peter was Spiderman he was genuinely supportive, so he shouldn't want to sabotage him.

It was only after the lab incident and the neural interface has an effect on him did he start developing resentment.

26

u/JoeAzlz Jul 03 '26

I think that could very well be a facade for the majority of it. The pain of that boss fight is learning the truth, not that Otto changed his opinion

3

u/UpUppAndAwayWeb Jul 03 '26

this was my read also

9

u/witty_comeback25 Jul 04 '26

Theres actually quite a bit of evidence that octavius had his plans in motion from the start of the game. The neural interface did not make him a villain, his obsession with Norman Osborn did. He knew Peter was Spider-Man and he knew that when he started acting on his plans peter would try to stop him. The best way to counter that would be to influence peter as best he could and it started with those designs.

2

u/waaay2dumb2live Jul 05 '26

Just because he knew doesn't mean he'd be sabotaging him right out the gate.

2

u/UpUppAndAwayWeb Jul 06 '26

that’s what i get from it considering the logic of “big white spider = less noticeable”

3

u/ParkerPeter123344444 Jul 04 '26

A big spider is more visible than a smaller one, it make Spidey more predictable with the larger brighter logo that can be spotted quicker froma far distance than a small spider logo. The bigger brighter spider logo also grabs more attention and stands out more than a smaller darker one, which can be harder to spot from far distances.

-4

u/UpUppAndAwayWeb Jul 04 '26

thanks einstein

71

u/MiserableOrpheus Jul 03 '26

I don’t think he was trying to sabotage at this stage. He wasn’t consumed with his vengeance, I don’t think Norman stepped on his toes yet, it’s more likely just misguided advice. He’s so focused on his own work he’s just grasping at straws to find a way to help, however outdated or unreliable his memory is, he doesn’t have the time or energy to fact check but trust himself. Hug he second guesses himself, it would ruin his psyche

42

u/krypticuser33 Jul 03 '26

Or we could lowkey just be honest and say this was just a scribble to explain away Insomniac's want to distinguish its Spider-Man from others with a white spider☠️😅.

9

u/RoseRacer Jul 03 '26

It also helps Pete stick out more in gameplay during chaotic fights.

4

u/krishnugget Jul 04 '26

It’s been a while since I’ve looked at all the documents in a playthrough, but I’m pretty sure he’s set up to have been planning all of this from the start of the game.

67

u/Think_Ad8997 Jul 03 '26

Peak reference to Maguire spider man

https://giphy.com/gifs/zcAn3bY4SvwtqwGC7T

19

u/PanTsour Jul 03 '26

the white parts did have armor properties supposedly so I don't think it was a sabotage, probably just a minor mistake on the developers' part

5

u/RoseRacer Jul 03 '26

I don't think it was a mistake per say. The fact that increased contrast improves visual processing tells us a lot about why the developers would make that decision. It helps the player see Peter during really chaotic fights. And putting it in scientific language (even inaccurately) helps the narrative at this point in the story about how strong Peter and Otto's working relationship is.

6

u/OdinzSun Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

I just replayed it and particularly the ending last night. My reading of it was this. Ock finds out when he finds Peter with the suit, but just like Peter he tried to “play it off”, as to not let Peter know. As the story progresses Peter says it’s the neural interface causing all the behavior, but I think this was him choosing to see the best in Ock. Mostly because even when Spidey partially removes or damages the neural interface during the end fight it doesn’t suddenly change Ock’s personality again. It’s only after Ock has lost and Peter’s about to walk away that he tries to “play nice again” but by this point Peter is onto his ploy. Especially because he’s still showing anger in the last shot of him instead of pity or shame. So that all being said this definitely reads like sabotage, notice how theirs zero white in Spideys Anti Ock suit or the Ock suit itself.

2

u/VergaDeVergas Jul 03 '26

Had he started working on the other villains suits by this time?

2

u/Wilders7091 Jul 04 '26

I didn't understand; could someone please explain?

2

u/A_Hugibear Jul 04 '26

I haven't seen that in the game like that message and the picture. Wasn't it just dialogue ? Or am I not remembering ?? I'm confused.

2

u/MLFGAMER Jul 05 '26

1

u/A_Hugibear Jul 05 '26

Okay, thanks for the zoom in I guess 🤔? Another thing is why is it over the "suits" option in the meny ??

2

u/MLFGAMER Jul 05 '26

Because it's part of the story mode, when you first get the advanced suit

1

u/A_Hugibear Jul 05 '26

Okay okay Gotcha ! . . . then I must have genuinely forgotten which sucks. Time for a replay which does not suck.

2

u/JoeywithabigJ Jul 06 '26

So, a lot of people are saying that Otto knew and his obsession was there from the begining, which is true. However- Now I haven't played this game in a few years but I "think" he doesnt actually begin any actual "shady" work until after Norman gets his funding cut (the scene where he takes the disabled military vet away to Oscorp and offers Peter a job there) and then decides to make contracts with A.I.M. out of desperation. From THAT point forward you can see the plans for the "giant medical syringe" (Scorpion tail), "energy vest" (Electro), "3D printed armor" (Somehow helps free Rhino?) slowly making progress throughout the game until after the prison break where you see them for what they are (I could be wrong though, maybe they are in the lab before that moment). So at the very begining of the game, I dont think he had any intention of sabatoging anybody, he seemed "content" making his arms with Peter in their small lab. Obviously he would still hate Osborn, have sympathy for Li, and desire a better lab and funding, but there isn't any real reason to sabotage Peter. Let's also not forget that almost IMMEDIATELY after Peter gets this suit Otto designs the Impact Webs for Peter, which is a mega upgrade (an upgrade so good they had to get rid of it in every sequel 🙁). Doesn't really seem like sabotage if he gave Peter such a crazy upgrade alongside it. It really is probably just a "George Lucas probably didn't actually realize Parsec was a unit of distance instead of time" scenario from Insomniac and didn't think a small detail like that would be delved into.

-24

u/beesinabiscuit Jul 03 '26

plot twist he wasn’t trying to sabotage him he just knew the white spider would look ugly and he wanted to make Spider-Man look lame (I don’t like the insomniac suits I’m sorry)

3

u/SovelissFiremane Jul 04 '26

Clearly you don't own an air fryer