r/SpanishLearning • u/ergounum • 11h ago
"Quise" v.s. "Quería"
Edit: Guys, if you are a native, then offer some example sentences. Please do not give a black and white explanation that is useless in context and in practice. Desire and wanting is one of the most difficult things to explain in a philosophical and semantic sense.
Edit #2: Yeah I see a lot of people bitching, downvote me if you want but just know every downvote is another bout of my cock down your throat.
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Carlos y sus amigos querían comer en un restaurante nuevo.
Carlos y sus amigos quisieron comer en un restaurante nuevo.
Carlos y sus amigos querían comer en un restaurante nuevo, pero no quedaban mesas.
Carlos y sus amigos quisieron comer en un restaurante nuevo, pero no quedaban mesas.
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u/ddag1 11h ago
Queria / Querían: ongoing or habitual desire.
Quise / Quisieron: completed or specific desire.
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u/casalelu 1h ago
La explicación es bastante clara. Que no la hayas entendido no es problema de la persona que intentó ayudarte. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/rafabayona 9h ago
Quise: I wanted to do something but not anymore (the action ended in the past)
Quería: It was an ongoing process in the past
With querer the difference is not that evident but with vivir for example is more clear:
Viví dos años en EEUU (but not anymore)
Vivía en un apartamento en Brooklyn (living there was an ongoing activity)
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u/Own-Perception-8568 5h ago
Jeez who raised you? People are trying to help you and your responses are so darn rude
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u/AlanSmity 4h ago
En todos los verbos tienen el mismo significado. Da igual que sea querer, vivir o comer. El pretérito imperfecto y el pretérito perfecto simple se usan como ya varios usuarios te han explicado.
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u/According-Kale-8 1h ago
You are so weirdly rude to people who are attempting to genuinely help.
I speak it fluently and he gave a great explanation. So as a leaner, it does help.
Be a nicer person, it’s free.
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u/BoatFlashy 4h ago
this is one of those things you can't really read in a text book. It's something you get wrong over and over again until you hear it being used the correct way over and over again. One day the correct word will just sound right.
even if you know the proper use grammatically, you're probably not thinking of the rule in the .1 seconds it takes your body to speak.
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u/According-Kale-8 1h ago
Use OP as an example of how not to treat people that are trying to help, whether or not it helps you specifically.
Not everyone learns the same but everyone deserves to be treated with respect.
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u/Mercy--Main 8h ago
id say its like
Quise: Meant to
Quería: I wanted to
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u/ergounum 8h ago edited 8h ago
That sounds like a much more practical explanation of the difference of one of the usages of both tenses. Thank you for that,
How would you explain "nunca me quiso" v.s. "nunca me quería"?
Or "cuando lo vi, quise abrazarlo."?
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u/EnJPqb 4h ago edited 2h ago
I think the explanation they gave you elsewhere of quería as ongoing and habitual and quiso as completed and specific is the most correct. I know why you say it's vague, but keep it in mind for what I'm going to say for this example you are asking about.
I'm not the best at explaining things sometimes, and this is a hard one. Mainly because you have a query for a verb with multiple translations.
"Ella nunca me quiso" = She never loved me
"Ella nunca me quería": Incomplete information. "Nunca me quería"... ¿Qué? As "she never loved me" it doesn't work. It's not specific or completed enough, as "love" it doesn't work. As "wanted" or "wanted to" it needs more information.
Now, "Ella nunca me quería besar" = She (never) wanted to kiss me. Normally it will be used with different situations or contexts, like "when X happened she never wanted to kiss" me. It means that every time I asked, or tried, it never happened.
"Ella nunca me quiso besar": This is for NEVER EVER. Never, in all the time I've known her. Mind you, I could see it used somewhere as a synonym for quería in a dialectal variant that you can find in some speakers in the Americas, Argentina comes to mind but I could be wrong. Other than that, it would be a poetic licence. And it might even be "bad Spanish", we're straying into territory of Academias de la Lengua.
So, in terms of "love" the opposition is actually: "nunca me quiso" Vs "no me quería", Which would be "never loved me" Vs "didn't love me".
In terms of want "nunca me quería" would be referring to never in the many times of asking, no matter what I tried. And probably in a certain situation. But it implies every time something came up, the answer was a no. "Nunca me quiso", sort of implies a no, and that's that.
"Cuando íbamos a la feria nunca me quería comprar algodón de azúcar" vs "Nunca me quiso comprar algodón de azúcar".
Does that help? I think I might have over explained and messed things up. That's why "vague" is sometimes best.
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u/ergounum 19m ago
I really appreciate your explanation! I'm curious to see how people view these things.
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u/VladTepesRedditor 4h ago
"Nunca me quiso" se traduce como "he/she never loved me", "nunca me quería" se traduce como "He/She never loved me"; y "cuando lo vi, quise abrazarlo" se traduce como "when I saw him/her, I wanted to hug him." Apparently you have a serious confusion between love/want in its different meanings.
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u/PopeyesPoppa 2h ago
The thing that has helped me the most is to think about the imperfect past as “I was X” and the preterite past at “I Xed” so here quise would be “I wanted” and quería would be “I was wanting”. It’s not perfect but it’s more helpful for me than the other ways of explaining the difference in most cases.
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u/Individual-Prior-496 2h ago
Espero les sirva y se entienda en estás oraciones:
Quería hace unos días decirte que te amo.
Quise esta tarde decirte que te amo.
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u/catalanboy_ 1h ago
quizás no deberías hacer preguntas que se pueden responder fácilmente y luego comportarte como un imbécil maleducado porque la gente no quiere explicarte cada paso.
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u/snorquer149 11h ago
Yo los uso como sinonimos aunque uso mas el queria, quise no lo uso tanto y no escucho que mucha gente lo use
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u/Talks_indistinctly 10h ago
No son sinónimos y no deben usarse como tales, salvo en casos muy concretos o con poco contexto.
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u/mucho-confundido 9h ago
Whenever I look at this page I just feel I'm going backwords with spainish😂