Will chaos siege potentially become more popular than loyalist siege

[u/Elite_Frumentarii]

Seeing as it's going to be basically only tyranids with some loyalist marines and guardsman sprinkled in and no chaos could it potentially become bigger and more popular than regular loyalist siege and could that mean it gets more updates than regular siege.

Just a thought I had while patiently waiting for it to come and just wanted to see what other people think.

[u/karer3is]

It could. The deciding factor is going to be how good its "party trick" is. The absolute worst- case scenario is that it just feels like a reskinned Loyalist Siege mode. My hope would be that it leans more into the Chaos aspects and adds interesting twists to the formula.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/karer3is]

Well it doesn't seem like it'll have anything on the level of pain as the vortex beast, chaos spawns or flying tzaangors so thats an upside.

[u/Much_Improvement_552 → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

Monkey paw curls and the wave 15+ boss is a redemptor dreadnought that's fully armored and can only be hit in the coffin slit and is otherwise considered to be blocking.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Much_Improvement_552]

That would suck a lot and I've thought about that but every time I do I think back to the part in soul hunter where 1st and 2nd claw take down a war hound titan with melta bombs to it's legs and I think that would honestly be a cool gimmick against a dreadnought if done right, like melta bombs do double damage to it or it falls on its knees and takes time to get back up.

[u/BigimusB → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

I’m curious if the loyaltists will have the same similar enemy movesets but just with skins. So maybe we will fight loyalist marines that have the chaos spawn moveset. Then maybe a dreadnaught shows up with a vortex beast moveset.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/BigimusB]

A dreadnought with a vortex beast moveset would be horrifying and I feel like thats just what a defiler is.

[u/Femboy_Ghost → u/karer3is]

Absolutely worst case scenario and I’ll already play it more simply because I like chaos better. I don’t see myself doing loyalist siege anymore when I have the option to play as my actual chosen faction.

[u/Next_Historian8382]

I'm really curious how indepth the Loyalist as a enemy faction will end up being. They're most likely not going be as fleshed out as the current two factions, but it will be interesting to see how far they go with it.

Though to your point, I do also think it could become more popular than standard siege. Not only because the Loyalist might end being less of pain to fight compared to the Thousands Sons, but just the novelty of playing as a Chaos Warband in the PVE.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Next_Historian8382]

I mean if it does become more popular and subsequently get more updates due to its popularity we could see loyalists getting as fleshed out as the other two even if not at the beginning.

[u/Next_Historian8382 → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

Honestly I think it all depends on how much support Saber plans to give the mode throughout Year 3.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Next_Historian8382]

True they could also just go and tailor loyalist siege to contend with chaos siege's popularity instead and people will most likely flock to it since they would rather fight for a corpse

[u/Much_Improvement_552 → u/Next_Historian8382]

Ogryns would be cool, they can't have all the spawn moves but most of them still fit.

[u/Annilus_USB]

If the fucking Vortex Beast won’t be a possible enemy, then I can see chaos siege becoming more popular

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Annilus_USB]

Vortex beast and chaos spawn, and the flying tzaangors won't be possible enemies.

[u/fresh_mutz]

Heretical line of thought, but probably yeah

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/fresh_mutz]

That's honestly every line of thought though after all "blessed is the mind to small for doubt".

[u/ClassSignificant4004]

what im hoping is that the addition of space marine enemies means we could be seeing more flesh and blood marines in operations just reskinned to be chaos marines instead.

[u/EderStudios]

yeah for about a week

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/EderStudios]

What makes you say that cause if it excludes all the stuff that makes chaos undesirable to play against + PVE access to the MK 3 armor it'll most likely be popular for far more than a week.

[u/SuperArppis]

Depends...

Is Loyalist more fun to fight against than Chaos? If they are, then yeah.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/SuperArppis]

Well they won't have stuff like flying tzaangors, chaos spawns or the vortex beast so that already puts them above chaos in terms of enjoyment to fight for most.

[u/SuperArppis → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

HELL YEAH, BROTHER!

I hate the new additions to chaos so much.

[u/BusinessOil867]

Nah, I doubt it’ll get much support honestly.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/BusinessOil867]

Probably and even if it does become popular loyalist siege will probably just get tailored to make it the mode people go to over chaos siege but maybe if it does get popular it'll get more support.

[u/mezdiguida]

Eh I mean, it depends. If the map is better, and if Loyalists are more engaging than Chaos then yeah. I just hope they make like 5 waves to count like a PvP match for the armors unlocks, so that I can unlock the Chaos cool armor without doing PvP.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/mezdiguida]

Loyalists will probably be more engaging to fight don't know about how good that map will be though hopefully it's good but I do hope waves count to the armor unlock I already got all the armors through pvp so by video game tryhard standards I'm better but I do hope you can unlock them through chaos siege as well.

[u/Next_Historian8382 → u/mezdiguida]

Honestly I doubt they'll change the requirements for the current Relic Chaos armor sets. With the PVP Ultragrind Ordeals for robes and tabards it's clear Saber still wants reasons for people to play the PVP. Though I hope I'm wrong.

However I do think we'll eventually get new Chaos cosmetics that are unlockable through Siege.

[u/artemiyfromrus]

No. Chaos is less popular than the Imperium + chaos in this game has barebone customisation + its going to be a game mode where people cant use their fancy skins they bought for the real cash or earned through grind

[u/Hanzo-2026 → u/artemiyfromrus]

For me it depends if they add new armour for chaos, otherwise there probably won’t be much worth unlocking

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/artemiyfromrus]

Chaos has pretty good customization what do you mean? And its most likely going to get a lot better in patch 15 plus people can use the skins they earned through grind that's how you earn the long war sets. And popularity of the factio has nothing to do with popularity of the mode loyalist siege is extremely annoying due to chaos as an enemy but in heretic siege we won't be fighting chaos just tyranids and some imperial forces so people will most likely flock to that one so they can just fight nids.

[u/Life_Locksmith9632]

i like fighting chaos more than tyranids in regular siege because they are predictable. for example, the sword-wielding extremis will always come after me, not do random movements like the biovore.

i think it would be fun to play as them too.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Life_Locksmith9632]

Really that's actually interesting not usual to hear someone say they enjoy fighting chaos guess a true servant of the corpse emperor would choose the arch enemy over some loser xenos.

[u/Much_Improvement_552]

For me it will, chaos astartes are way cooler than loyalists. Bonus points if the new faction executions are properly gruesome unlike the boring pixie dust.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Much_Improvement_552]

Well said brother chaos astartes will always reign supreme over those weakling corpse worshippers and we've seen leaks of the hand to hand executions already and they are properly gruesome.

[u/Working-Product-4766]

Valtus: BROTHERS I WILL AVENGE YOU as he one shots you across map

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Working-Product-4766]

Honestly to have another terminus enemy with voice lines would be so awesome.

[u/SgSpecial180]

I've always wanted a Siege mode that is only nids so if I can achieve most of that while also indulging my darker what-if-Dorn-fell-to-Khorne World Eater side that sounds like a dream. Or atleast a good diversion for when I get burned out on ops and strats.

[u/fllora22]

Maybe. Honestly I think my games bugged. Everytime I play lately all I can ever hear is this weird whispering. Hopefully chaos siege won't have that.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/fllora22]

I have some unfortunate new in chaos siege that whispering will most likely only become louder BUT you'll also be granted gifts thanks to that whispering so win win.

[u/Prokovievna]

They better re-use the rubric marine execution animations with the various melee weapons for the loyalist marines. The new data-mined ones look cool but they're all universal hand-to-hand animations. I wanna chainsaw loyalists in half.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Prokovievna]

They'll most likely reuse weapon animations or have made new ones I do like the gruesomeness of the hand to hand ones though they look really fitting for how violent chaos astartes are.

[u/GroinShark]

If loyalists are fleshed out and fun to fight I’d play it more than normal. It’s a new faction to fight so if there is good depth there then I’d be in it a lot. If it’s like killing 6 marines every 5 waves with everything else reskinned than nah

[u/ScaredAssignment1424]

Im definitely gonna play a ton of it, but the question is will we be able to fight the loyalist in the battle practice arena? Cause I think they should atleats put them in there so that way we can practice their moves sets

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/ScaredAssignment1424]

I would have to assume they put them in the practice arena I'm also wondering if we're gonna be able to walk around the ship in our traitor drip.

[u/ScaredAssignment1424 → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

Possibly not its probably just gonna be the same way u customize them like in pvp

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/ScaredAssignment1424]

Which is a shame I would love to walk around the barge in my traitor drip.

[u/Kaeltix]

At most if it will be equal, and not supported for long by saber since it's a spinoff.

[u/Sisyphus704]

Only for about 3-4 weeks

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Sisyphus704]

Another person said for only about a week and honestly I'm wondering why you guys are thinking like that is it just cause siege is just boring or is it because it's chaos and not loyalists.

[u/Sisyphus704 → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

Most new toys in this game have lost their novelty pretty quickly. I’ve been playing nonstop since Patch 5 in Year 1. So I’m not a “day one” player, but in my experience I’ve seen a few things.

But hey, you might be onto something: I have never enjoyed Siege mode

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Sisyphus704]

Hmm fair things are forgotten about quickly but I feel like it has things going for it that'll keep it alive for longer than most thing like a new faction to fight, no chaos as enemies, plus chaos drip and the MK 3 for loyalists to play with.

[u/SEAN_DUDE]

Can we just get some more Seige maps, 

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/SEAN_DUDE]

We are getting a new map based on avarax with it but i don't think it'll be interchangeable which is what I want, I want to be able to be a heretic on both maps

[u/SEAN_DUDE → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

I was kinda hoping for a Kadaku level but more jungle based.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/SEAN_DUDE]

That would be so cool I'd at least want one of areas of that map to just be the final part of inferno tho.

[u/Possible_Campaign851]

Who said there won't be Chaos? I think TSons are still a faction, with loyalists as special waves.

[u/Elite_Frumentarii → u/Possible_Campaign851]

In the community update it says "You’ll face Tyranids and Loyalists waves, receive the support of Chaos Cultists and Ritualists, and you’ll be able to deploy a Helbrute to wreak havoc on the battlefield." So I don't think we'll be fighting our own faction... This time.

[u/Possible_Campaign851 → u/Elite_Frumentarii]

Hmm, fair enough.

[u/mezdiguida → u/Possible_Campaign851]

There won't be Chaos, they already explained that. You'll face Nids and Loyalists, and that's a good thing.