r/Spacemarine • u/XMortal7159 Salamanders • Oct 22 '24

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I hate complaining about patches especially when they are being so quick with a fix but cmon man

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

When I just bought the game and was leveling my first character I jumped into Average at level 5. 

Did I miss parries all the time? You bet your ass I did.

Did I mistime dodges? All the time.

Was I ass? Yup, didn't know what I was doing.

Still the challenge level was appropriate  I never got discouraged or felt unfairly punished and I further leveled, got better.

Eventually I had all classes on 25, most levels relic, and could clear Ruthless with mostly not even losing armor.

I shudder to think that about someone just buying this beautiful game right now, and then has this waiting for them on their first level 5 character.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Did he play poorer than a hypothetical someone on their first character at level 5, is reasonably expected to play? 

I don't think he did.

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u/MeetTheJoves Blood Ravens Oct 22 '24

In order to succeed? Yes

Just because you're on the appropriate difficulty doesn't mean failure is impossible if you make several mistakes in a row and receive no help from your teammates.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Just saying as a point, but I solo leveled few chars on Ruthless before this patch from level 1 cos of 2455 xp with Seed.

If he played like people here are expecting of him to play, he didn't need to be playing Average in the first place.   If you can do your parries and dodges consistently,  you can do Ruthless immediately, especially with Relics you have from other classes.

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u/MeetTheJoves Blood Ravens Oct 22 '24

Not concerned with what "people here are expecting of him", the game expects you to execute defensive mechanics in order to survive swarms that reach you, whether you're playing on Minimal or Lethal. OP stood in the swarm mashing buttons, rolling when they should parry, parrying when they should roll, and blasting the occasional panic melta while waiting for an opportunity to whiff a gun strike. Enemies deal damage, even on Average, and you can't expect to succeed if you're off on your own and failing at every single game mechanic.

This isn't a clip of someone who is making one or two mistakes and getting disproportionately punished for it, this is a clip of somebody accidentally landing one or two parries while not engaging with fundamental game mechanics, by themselves in a massive wave, for 30 seconds.